Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 5

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abaddon said:
Don't forget that the Mogg has made sure his money is outside the UK and firmly in the EU.

What a cockwomble.
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I do hope some EU bureaucrats have been tasked with finding an excuse to seize his assets post Brexit.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Jacob Rees-Mogg has suggested that after Brexit, people crossing the Irish border should be subject to 'inspections, just like during The Troubles'. he also said "It's not a border that one has to go through every day."

Apart from 30,000 or so people that cross every day to go to and from work.
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Don't worry the Northern Ireland secretary is getting to grips with her brief.

Mariana Hyde's assessment of her performance and statements

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...y-northern-ireland-secretary-tories?CMP=fb_gu

ay attention, entrails-pickers: this dead government has yielded up a new sign. She is Karen Bradley, actual secretary of state for actual Northern Ireland, and she has granted an interview to Parliament’s The House magazine. “I freely admit,” Karen freely admitted, “that when I started this job, I didn’t understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland. I didn’t understand things like when elections are fought, for example, in Northern Ireland – people who are nationalists don’t vote for unionist parties and vice versa.”
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Clearly, it is not simply the initial imbecility of having no clue about the central facts of Northern Irish politics and history, even though you were 28 (TWENTY EIGHT) when the Good Friday agreement was signed. It is also the second imbecility of thinking you should ever mention that in public, much less as delightedly, as Karen did. “It’s when you realise that,” burbled the secretary of state, “that you can then start to understand some of the things that the politicians say and some of the rhetoric.”
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the rest is quite cutting too
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Boris Johnson has attacked Theresa's May's Brexit plan, saying she had "wrapped a suicide vest" around the British constitution and "handed the detonator" to Brussels.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45462900
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Everyone sgrees the current plan is terrible. As no 10 point out there is no better plan for leaving the EU offered by Boris or anyone else. No person understanding trade will back a no deal brexit. Even those who don't understand economics and trade realise that no deal would be a disaster for the UK. The only ones backing it are short term investors wanting a get richer quicker deal.

The best thing for the UK is remain. Party politics (in Labour and Tory camps) is currently preventing a public say on the actual arrangements as opposed to the over optimistic promises 2 years ago.
 
Lothian said:
As no 10 point out there is no better plan for leaving the EU offered by Boris or anyone else.
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Apart from the Canada+ plan that David Davies and his department were working on...


The differences within the Tory party now look so deep, that a split/UKIP defections look likely.
 
Anyone else like Johnson's ever so subtle invoking of Islamophobia with the "suicide-vest" quote?
 
It's unfortunate that a vote made on the basis of hypotheticals -- arguments and projections that have been shown to be false or overstated -- is considered more legitimate than another, second vote that now could be made on the basis of hard facts and sober reality. Further, international affairs have shifted so greatly since the advent of Trump (and the impact of Brexit itself) that "Britain First" sounds quite a bit more naive and dangerous, or should do by now.
 
Naive and dangerous is a selling point to the Brexiteers.

From my previous link:

As for the coveted endorsement from someone Boris would unquestionably have pitied mercilessly at school (they missed being Eton contemporaries by a year), it came in an LBC interview. “Two years ago, in the Conservative party leadership campaign, I supported Boris Johnson, because I thought he would deliver Brexit extraordinarily well,” Rees-Mogg intoned, suggesting he has inherited all his father’s gifts of prophecy. “I haven’t seen anything that would cause me to change my mind on that.” Not anything?! Should have gone to MonocleSavers.
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In addition to the suicide vest comment Johnson offered up these gems:

He said that rather than getting a "", Britain is saying, "yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir", to Brussels.
"At every stage of the talks so far, Brussels gets what Brussels wants," wrote Mr Johnson.
"It is a humiliation. We look like a seven-stone weakling being comically bent out of shape by a 500lb gorilla."
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45462900

He really seems to have been clueless about who had the power in this negotiation. At every point during the referendum campaign when it was made clear a 'generous free trade deal', was simply a Leave fantasy Johnson and his fellow Brexiteers dismissed the warnings as scaremongering. Someone really needs to explain to Johnson that the EU is a 500 pound gorilla relative to the UK's 7 Stone weakling...
 
Hlafordlaes said:
It's unfortunate that a vote made on the basis of hypotheticals -- arguments and projections that have been shown to be false or overstated -- is considered more legitimate than another, second vote that now could be made on the basis of hard facts and sober reality. Further, international affairs have shifted so greatly since the advent of Trump (and the impact of Brexit itself) that "Britain First" sounds quite a bit more naive and dangerous, or should do by now.
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Well getting people to vote leave without understanding what Brexit would actually mean was the cornerstone of the Leave campaign. They have no intention of letting anyone change their mind just because that 'generous free trade deal' was a Brexiteer fantasy.
 
Garrison said:
In addition to the suicide vest comment Johnson offered up these gems:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45462900

He really seems to have been clueless about who had the power in this negotiation. At every point during the referendum campaign when it was made clear a 'generous free trade deal', was simply a Leave fantasy Johnson and his fellow Brexiteers dismissed the warnings as scaremongering. Someone really needs to explain to Johnson that the EU is a 500 pound gorilla relative to the UK's 7 Stone weakling...
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If the EU is a 500 pound gorilla, then the UK government is not only a 7 stone weakling, but one that has been sniffing glue
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Yes, because once that shortage hits, the British youth is going to leap into action and take those jobs, now unrightfully taken from them by them foreigners.
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I know around me it was never about the fruit picking jobs (of which there are many).
It was, pure and simple, down to having people speaking foreign on the High Street and having the cheek to open Polish food shops in town, even if the only other option would be another empty shop-front.

Oh, and not liking Cameron (which I suppose is fair enough).
 
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