Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 5

[jimbob]

I think it's really unfair.

The people voted leave and we should give the Brexiteers a chance to see what they can come up with. They should be in charge of the negotiations with the EU and arranging the trade negotiations with the other countries.

 

[fagin]

Dacre who was a member of the Jewish race and strong Brexit supporter seems to be being replaced by a Remainer from the Mail on Sunday, like most of the people on this forum. He was also very anti-Russian and covered up the bugging scandals in the UK. The funny thing is that Putin is not considered to be anti-Semitic even though he is extremely tough and a former KGB major. There is a bit of background information at this website:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jun/07/new-daily-mail-editor-to-be-geordie-greig

WTF does one have to do with the other?

 

[ceptimus]

More shocking news that not being in the EU means that, er, we're not in the EU.

Apparently driving licenses from countries not in the EU are not automatically accepted within the EU. Whodathunkit? What a ******* revelation!


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-45512152

More project fear.
If there's any difficulty for Brits wanting to drive in the rest of Europe, then we would retaliate by making it equally difficult for any EU citizens wanting to drive in the UK. It's in everyone's interest to mutually recognize each other's licenses so that's what will happen. Just the same as Americans wanting to drive in New Zealand, South Africa or Brazil, there won't be any problems unless the EU decide to behave like spoiled children.

 

[Lothian]

WTF does one have to do with the other?

In the real world or Henri's?

 

[Amazer]

More project fear.
If there's any difficulty for Brits wanting to drive in the rest of Europe, then we would retaliate by making it equally difficult for any EU citizens wanting to drive in the UK. It's in everyone's interest to mutually recognize each other's licenses so that's what will happen. Just the same as Americans wanting to drive in New Zealand, South Africa or Brazil, there won't be any problems unless the EU decide to behave like spoiled children.

And yet... there has to be some kind of agreement to recognize each others licenses. Time for that is running out... and rather fast. So there is a distinct possiblity that there will be problems driving either in the UK or in the EU till such an agreement is reached.

 

[p0lka]

More project fear.
If there's any difficulty for Brits wanting to drive in the rest of Europe, then we would retaliate by making it equally difficult for any EU citizens wanting to drive in the UK. It's in everyone's interest to mutually recognize each other's licenses so that's what will happen. Just the same as Americans wanting to drive in New Zealand, South Africa or Brazil, there won't be any problems unless the EU decide to behave like spoiled children.

regarding the highlighted.
You know the Brit population is small compared to the EU yeah?

 

[fagin]

In the real world or Henri's?

Silly me.

 

[ceptimus]

regarding the highlighted.
You know the Brit population is small compared to the EU yeah?

So what? Does that mean that more EU citizens want to drive in the UK than vice versa? If so, it is certainly in the EU's interest to have the UK recognize EU licenses - and to do that, the EU will need to recognize UK licenses.

At the moment, anyone from any country with a valid driving license for their own country, can drive in the UK for up to twelve months without needing to obtain an international driver's license.

If the EU decide to act like children and require UK citizens to obtain an international driver's license to drive there, then the UK would retaliate by requiring EU citizens to obtain same to drive here - but only EU citizens - visitors from the USA and elsewhere still wouldn't need one.

 

[quadraginta]

So what? Does that mean that more EU citizens want to drive in the UK than vice versa? If so, it is certainly in the EU's interest to have the UK recognize EU licenses - and to do that, the EU will need to recognize UK licenses.

At the moment, anyone from any country with a valid driving license for their own country, can drive in the UK for up to twelve months without needing to obtain an international driver's license.

I thin that the licenses need to be in English for that to be true.

If the EU decide to act like children and require UK citizens to obtain an international driver's license to drive there, then the UK would retaliate by requiring EU citizens to obtain same to drive here - but only EU citizens - visitors from the USA and elsewhere still wouldn't need one.

As long as elsewhere was an English speaking country.

Do You Need an IDP to Drive in the UK?

If your US driver's licence is issued in English, you probably don't need an IDP for the UK. However, in these days of heightened security, car rental companies and insurance companies may require one. And if you are planning to drive across the channel.

 

[Andy_Ross]

What about insurance?

A whole other minefield.

 

[Degeneve]

So what? Does that mean that more EU citizens want to drive in the UK than vice versa? If so, it is certainly in the EU's interest to have the UK recognize EU licenses - and to do that, the EU will need to recognize UK licenses.

At the moment, anyone from any country with a valid driving license for their own country, can drive in the UK for up to twelve months without needing to obtain an international driver's license.

If the EU decide to act like children and require UK citizens to obtain an international driver's license to drive there, then the UK would retaliate by requiring EU citizens to obtain same to drive here - but only EU citizens - visitors from the USA and elsewhere still wouldn't need one.

There are hundreds if not thousands of lorries coming from the EU and entering the UK daily. If their EU drivers are not allowed to continue their journey in the UK because of driver license issue this will create issue for UK undertakings, which will face procurement issues.

 

[Aber]

And yet... there has to be some kind of agreement to recognize each others licenses. Time for that is running out... and rather fast. So there is a distinct possiblity that there will be problems driving either in the UK or in the EU till such an agreement is reached.

Solution for UK residents is the International Driving Permit, available over the counter at Post Offices in 5 minutes for £5.50.

IIRC UK has said it will continue to recognise EU driving licences.

'Problems' slightly overstates the current position, I'd go with 'mild inconvenience'.

And the actual Government paper:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/driving-in-the-eu-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/driving-in-the-eu-if-theres-no-brexit-deal

 

[Amazer]

Solution for UK residents is the International Driving Permit, available over the counter at Post Offices in 5 minutes for £5.50.

IIRC UK has said it will continue to recognise EU driving licences.

'Problems' slightly overstates the current position, I'd go with 'mild inconvenience'.

And the actual Government paper:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/driving-in-the-eu-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/driving-in-the-eu-if-theres-no-brexit-deal

It's not a problem perse.... but it's yet another thing that costs time and money which wasn't required before.

 

[GlennB]

Solution for UK residents is the International Driving Permit, available over the counter at Post Offices in 5 minutes for £5.50.

IIRC UK has said it will continue to recognise EU driving licences.

'Problems' slightly overstates the current position, I'd go with 'mild inconvenience'.

And the actual Government paper:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/driving-in-the-eu-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/driving-in-the-eu-if-theres-no-brexit-deal

Highlighted the potential problem for some of us However, if the UK is going to recognise EU licences I would guess the EU will reciprocate.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6164219/Irish-citizens-continue-allowed-live-work-travel-UK-no-deal-Brexit.html

They're making promises again!

And I thought leave meant leave.

Does the CTA have some special status within the EU? Otherwise this is a non-starter.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

More project fear.
If there's any difficulty for Brits wanting to drive in the rest of Europe, then we would retaliate by making it equally difficult for any EU citizens wanting to drive in the UK. It's in everyone's interest to mutually recognize each other's licenses so that's what will happen. Just the same as Americans wanting to drive in New Zealand, South Africa or Brazil, there won't be any problems unless the EU decide to behave like spoiled children.

So the answer to no deal is to make a deal?

It seems like you don't even understand the question.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

There are hundreds if not thousands of lorries coming from the EU and entering the UK daily. If their EU drivers are not allowed to continue their journey in the UK because of driver license issue this will create issue for UK undertakings, which will face procurement issues.

Lorry drivers are a whole other kettle of fish. The industry has already said there will be major issues if no deal is done.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

Solution for UK residents is the International Driving Permit, available over the counter at Post Offices in 5 minutes for £5.50.

IIRC UK has said it will continue to recognise EU driving licences.

'Problems' slightly overstates the current position, I'd go with 'mild inconvenience'.

And the actual Government paper:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/driving-in-the-eu-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/driving-in-the-eu-if-theres-no-brexit-deal

Is there a time limit on how long you can use the IDP? I know it lasts 12 months but can you renew indefinitely?

I'm wondering if that is a solution for someone who say drives over the Irish border to work everyday?

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Jesus christ.

The slowly dawning realisation that leaving the EU means, shock, horror, that citizens of the UK will be treated 'like' those outside the EU because they will be (and I realise this may be hard for some who read the fuckingdailymail) from outside the EU.


******* idiots.

Not being part of the EU means we may be treated like we aren't part of the EU. Isn't it lucky we have these geniuses to ferret out these unexpected consequences for us. Pity they didn't have this flash of revelation before the vote...

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I though controlling boarders was the whole damn point. Once again brexiters don't know what they want actually means

They want us to control our borders. The idea that other countries might do the same never occurred to them. "Easiest negotiation ever" because we're holding all the cards remember...