2018 mid-term election

Brainster said:
I don't think I or the guy who wrote the article thought the race was a slam dunk. The article makes it clear that Hogan, the sitting Republican governor, is quite popular (although potentially vulnerable in a blue wave election). The point is that Jealous made an explicit argument for the Lost Tribe in his campaign (see the part that I highlighted in my post). The claim is that by rallying the base, they could somehow overcome Hogan's popular appeal. This is the Lost Tribe theory in a nutshell, that there is a group of voters who have disengaged but will suddenly turn out in droves if a candidate would only espouse policies sufficiently far to the left.

Rush Limbaugh and many other yakkers on the Right buy into it 100% as well, although of course they claim that the Lost Tribe consists of a bunch of conservatives wandering in the wilderness.
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Since the article was about "winnable" governorships that the Dems are blowing their opportunity on, I pointed out (and rightly so, I feel) that it really is misleading to call that one "winnable". Hogan's too popular and even has (before Jealous was confirmed) bipartisan support from not-quite-blue-dog Dems.

And the other two, I think it's yet to be seen, but they're equally opportunities that the GOP created by nominating turds. Georgia's not yet purple and certainly not ready to go blue. Florida is in the mood to elect another Republican, I think. They came out in strength for Trump. I'd love to see the GOP lose all three but I don't think they get more than one and maybe not that.

Ergo, I think the article is mischaracterizing the situation. It's basically a plug for moderate corporatist Democrat candidates.
 
Brainster said:
Apparently you are unaware of what a dog whistle (a literal one) is. If you can hear one sounded next to your ears, you are not a human. The whole notion of a figurative dog whistle is supposedly nobody hears it except racists. Hence my amusement at liberals hearing them everywhere.
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I agree that that is the intent.

However, like the really (((subtle))) alt-right indication of Jewish influence, it is often quite obvious.

Ditto the 18 and 88 references that Nazis also like.

If I was in a group of people that the Klan was trying to associate with, I'd be bloody careful about seeming to support their ideas. If that involved not coining a new phase involving monkeys when referring to my black opponent, then it would be a sacrifice I'd manage to make.
 
Distracted1 said:
I guess we just differ then. I referred to an African American as a "boy" just this past Sunday, and frequently use terms such as "monkey around","monkey wrench","monkey see-monkey do", and "monkey suit" without hesitation.

Your allegation that this makes me "stupid", and that my use of the word "monkey" in an expression is a "vague allusion to African Americans" is exactly what I am talking about.
I do not need to defend my innocent use of English. Your vilification of my innocent word choice makes you seem to me a bit less than completely rational- and further, someone you wouldn't want on "your side" even though our viewpoints are very similar.

Were I an independent voter in Florida, being reminded that "the left" considers me an enemy because I refer to a male juvenile as a "boy", and to foolish behavior as "monkeying around" is not going to get me to the polling booth to pull the lever for the Democrats.

That is the (possible) subtlety of the comments by DiSantis I am seeing.
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Nobody is saying that the word "monkey" is inherently racist, and lots of people have pointed out that "monkey about" and "monkey wrench" are perfectly cromulent phrases.

I have never heard "monkey up" until this occasion.

Similarly, referring to boys as boys is also reasonable.
 
Distracted1 said:
Or,
I really don't care for Trump and his ilk, but I just can't bring myself to go out and vote for the party that calls me a racist for using the term "monkey"
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... when talking about a black person.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
I don't know if Trump misspoke, or if his speech was improperly transcribed. But from reading it, it looks like he said: "some rapists are good people."
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Probably ones who rape their wives - which we all know his attorney thought wasn't a crime.
 
quadraginta said:
You do if you're trying to claw your way through a GOP primary.

The least little deviation from accepted gospel is blood in the water to all the other candidates.

Republicans eat their young.
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I don't know. Free trade has ALWAYS been a major tenet of GOP politics and now it isn't. This stuff changes. I remember a time when you could be pro choice, even gay as a Republican. Remember 'log cabin' Republicans?
 
Given the book "Fear" that's coming out, and if it can demonstrated to be true, the Democrats should make sure to broadcast this Trump quote in the south:

Mocking Sessions’s accent, Trump added, “This guy is mentally retarded. He’s this dumb Southerner. … He couldn’t even be a one-person country lawyer down in Alabama.”
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I'm sure people in the south would love to hear that.

ETA: If half of what the author claims is true, we're flirting with disaster constantly, here, and Trump's only check is a number of people willing to break with tradition or even the chain of command to avoid a catastrophe.
 
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Belz... said:
Given the book "Fear" that's coming out, and if it can demonstrated to be true, the Democrats should make sure to broadcast this Trump quote in the south:



I'm sure people in the south would love to hear that.

ETA: If half of what the author claims is true, we're flirting with disaster constantly, here, and Trump's only check is a number of people willing to break with tradition or even the chain of command to avoid a catastrophe.
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His base won't believe it.
Eta: and Woodward can't prove it, since his sources are deep background. He allegedly has tapes, but to release them would be to betray his sources.
 
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A Prediction:
Since the Blue Wave for the House seems unstoppable, Russian interference will focus on de-legitimising the election.
Expect to hear fabricated news of massive voting fraud and ballot stuffing- possibly enough for Republicans to force recounts and thus extend their control of Congress.
 
My goodness. The Republicans might lose in Texas, Nevada and Arizona. On balance the Democrats might lose Florida. That is a net gain of two Senate seats.



Interesting.
 
Mitch McCOnell is planning on keeping the senate in session through Octover to lessen the chances of Dems in the midterms.
McConell is evil. He is willing to destroy democracy to keep his party in power.
 
dudalb said:
Mitch McCOnell is planning on keeping the senate in session through Octover to lessen the chances of Dems in the midterms.
McConell is evil. He is willing to destroy democracy to keep his party in power.
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How does making the Senate work more help destroy democracy?
 
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