Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

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Ziggurat said:
So this opinion is rational and level-headed?
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No, its not

On the other hand, if someone were to assassinate him, I would not be shocked or surprised. If you enrage enough people, sooner or later, one of them is likely to act on that rage.

My response would be that I hope America would then take the chance they have been presented by the assassination of this horrible man, to heal itself from the damage that has been inflicted by him.
 
Henri McPhee said:
There is an interesting article on the internet today about all this so-called Russian collusion, if anybody can make any sense of it. It looks like the Britisher Christopher Steele was mixed up in it to me:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...ut-spread-to-trump/ar-BBML6PM?ocid=spartanntp
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Did you notice this in that article as well?
The contacts between Mr. Ohr and Mr. Steele were detailed in emails and notes from Mr. Ohr that the Justice Department turned over to Republicans in Congress earlier this year.
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Not turned over to Congress but specifically to Republicans. And given it was this year and that article is dated 15 hours ago, that means Sessions' DoJ. I could believe that was less partisan had it been turned over to Congress. If there's any deep state here, it's the one building within the House of Reps. and they are getting plenty of money from Putin as well via various PACs.
 
smartcooky said:
No, its not
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Ok, good opening...

On the other hand, if someone were to assassinate him, I would not be shocked or surprised. If you enrage enough people, sooner or later, one of them is likely to act on that rage.
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... kinda sounds like you might be making excuses. But let's see where you're going with this...

My response would be that I hope America would then take the chance they have been presented by the assassination of this horrible man, to heal itself from the damage that has been inflicted by him.
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... aaand, you flubbed it.

The assassination of a president isn't an opportunity. And if you think that Trump getting assassinated will make people act more reasonably, you're even more deluded than the pizzagate loons.
 
Ziggurat said:
So this opinion is rational and level-headed?
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Despite yours and smartcooky's opinions, yes it is a rational and level-headed opinion.

If one holds 'deranged' beliefs about a politician, there is nothing in those words that say, only if you are obsessively negative about the person. In Trump's case, more than a few people are obsessively blind to Trump's lies and his mental problems.
 
Wanting to see a person hung up by his heel and throat slit is a “rational and level headed position.”

Trump has absolutely broken the left.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Despite yours and smartcooky's opinions, yes it is a rational and level-headed opinion.
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Thank you for being candid. I now know that you are the sort of person who wants their political adversaries summarily executed. I will forever keep that in mind.
 
Ziggurat said:
Ok, good opening...



... kinda sounds like you might be making excuses. But let's see where you're going with this...



... aaand, you flubbed it.

The assassination of a president isn't an opportunity. And if you think that Trump getting assassinated will make people act more reasonably, you're even more deluded than the pizzagate loons.
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Yeah, that is pretty much the kind of reply I expected to get from sycophantic Trump supporting [SNIP].
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You have to be Blind Freddie to not see the damage Your Hero has done to your country - the racial division he has stirred up, the homophobia he has encouraged, the religious distrust he has engendered, and the use of parents love for their children as a weapon against them by separating them and confining the children in cages, sometimes thousands of miles away. There are almost 500 children still separated from their parents by Your Hero's minions. The parents have no idea where their children have been taken, and the state has lost them - they don't know where they are either.

Your Hero has called Nazis and white supremacists "good people". He mocked a war hero, and then mocked his grieving daughter. Your Hero is a despicable piece of excrement. Your Hero is totally uncaring for his country, his people or those around him. He has no conscience, no intestinal fortitude and entirely lacks anything resembling a moral compass.
 
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The Big Dog said:
:eye-poppi

TDS has infected this forum
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The Big Dog said:
Wanting to see a person hung up by his heel and throat slit is a “rational and level headed position.”

Trump has absolutely broken the left.
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No. He's just proven that he is the total cretin we feared he would be. Trump is a degenerate con man who should be flushed down the toilet like all excrement. And while I don't want to see him executed, I can understand how some people who can see that Trump is damaging this nation is deserving of that fate, i dont believe it should happen.

Me, i want to see him arrested, stand trial, convicted and incarcerated.
 
Ziggurat said:
Thank you for being candid. I now know that you are the sort of person who wants their political adversaries summarily executed. I will forever keep that in mind.
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The anger towards Trump born out of being a “politcal adversary.” Oh, that is cute framing.
 
Ziggurat said:
Thank you for being candid. I now know that you are the sort of person who wants their political adversaries summarily executed. I will forever keep that in mind.
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You clearly define derangement syndrome differently than the rest of the English speaking world.

Here's the top definition from the Urban Dictionary: Trump Derangement Syndrome
Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their love of Donald Trump, to the point they will abandon all logic and reason.

Symptoms for this condition can be very diverse, ranging from racist or xenophobic outbursts to a complete disconnection from reality. TDS can also often result in the sufferer exhibiting violent, homicidal, or even genocidal desires, particularly against residents from foreign countries.

Sufferers have also been known to wish direct self-harm on themselves (such as increased tariffs, a desire for tax cuts heavily favoring corporations and the 1%, infringement of first amendment rights, and even the destruction of NATO for comrade Putin), provided that action was initiated by Donald Trump.

Paranoia is also a common symptom of TDS. Sufferers have been known to believe that they are in some way being persecuted when their Trump related beliefs are questioned, and in some cases believe they are about to be a victim of an immigrant related crime. The paranoia does however not seem to be bad enough to make TDS sufferers attempt to actually becoming informed and think for themselves.
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And the second definition:
Trump Derangement Syndrome
The latest attempt by the alt-right to demonise anybody who thinks that maybe putting a reality TV star who's declared bankruptcy six times in charge of the country might not have been the best idea.
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It isn't until you get to the third and fourth definitions on the page that you get what people posting about TDS in this thread meant:
A mental dysfunction causing those detractors with hateful thoughts and feelings about Donald Trump to go unhinged....

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason. ...
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Note: Bush Derangement Syndrome and Obama Derangement Syndrome have only one definition. And for whatever reason, I couldn't find either CDS or HDS listed.

And for the record, I don't know where assassination was injected into this discussion, but it wasn't by me.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
And for the record, I don't know where assassination was injected into this discussion, but it wasn't by me.
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No, it wasn't you. It was autumn1971. But I asked you specifically about his post advocating assassination, and you said it was a "rational and level-headed opinion". Do you want to amend your answer?
 
Ziggurat said:
No, it wasn't you. It was autumn1971. But I asked you specifically about his post advocating assassination, and you said it was a "rational and level-headed opinion". Do you want to amend your answer?
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“Look at that thing over there.” We get that a lot in Discussions about Trump. This one is about the Mueller investigation.
 
Ziggurat said:
Wanting Trump to be assassinated is just "anger". Oh, that is cute framing.
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As dishonest rhetoric as your hero. I know you are smart enough to understand what you did and what I am pointing out. Another tu quoque and red herring.
 
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Sideroxylon said:
“Look at that thing over there.” We get that a lot in Discussions about Trump. This one is about the Mueller investigation.
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autumn1971 called for the death of Trump, and I called him out for it. But somehow, you only object to me having posted off topic, not autumn1971. It isn't actually being off topic that you really object to.
 
Sideroxylon said:
As dishonest rhetoric as your hero. I know you are smart enough to understand what you did and what I am pointing out. Another tu quoque and red herring.
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Considering that Trump isn't my hero, accusing me of dishonesty is quite ironic. It's also unoriginal, you just cribbed it from smartcooky. You should have thrown in his white supremacist accusation as well, because if you're going to ad hominem and straw man, you might as well go all the way. Really, up your game.
 
Ziggurat said:
autumn1971 called for the death of Trump, and I called him out for it. But somehow, you only object to me having posted off topic, not autumn1971. It isn't actually being off topic that you really object to.
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What an interesting reading of what I said.
 
Ziggurat said:
Considering that Trump isn't my hero, accusing me of dishonesty is quite ironic. It's also unoriginal, you just cribbed it from smartcooky. You should have thrown in his white supremacist accusation as well, because if you're going to ad hominem and straw man, you might as well go all the way. Really, up your game.
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Yeah..... :rolleyes: .....right. You only ignore all his flaws and praise him to the heavens.
 
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