Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

[LSSBB]

Kurtz was actually very rational, especially compared to the POSOTUS. Kurtz, (movie, not novel,) realized that the only answer to the madness would be madness and he made the choice to embrace it.

Trump is just an idiot Facist baby who needs to be hung by his ankles and have his throat slit so he dies choking on his own blood.

I find that pretty sick and disturbing.

 

[Stacyhs]

My impression of you from your posts is one of the usual non thinking, left wing xenophobic, Trump apologist.

The thing about Trump is, and it is quite obvious to anyone who really watches and listens to what he says and does, and putting his political leanings to one side for a moment, that he is a complete idiot who appears to only care about himself.

I don't dislike him because of his politics (though I definitely don't like his politics), I dislike him because he is a nasty, spoilt, vindictive person and because he lies so much in the most obvious ways. I think he could well be a psychopath:

Symptoms and signs of psychopathy:

Superficial charm and glibness.
Inflated sense of self-worth.
Constant need for stimulation.
Lying pathologically.
Conning others; being manipulative.
Lack of remorse or guilt.
Shallow emotions.
Callousness; lack of empathy.

I think that is what most people cannot understand about Trump supporters. They seem to be more interested in sticking it to the lefties than worrying about the fact that their leader is a dangerous moron. I mean do you care at all that Trump is snuggling up to an aggressive state that is quite obviously trying to inflict damage on the US? Are you quite sure you are willing to ignore that (irrespective of whether he has done anything illegal concerning Russian involvement)?

Trumpsters are cutting their nose to spite their face:

"Don't cut off your nose to spite your face" is a warning against acting out of pique, or against pursuing revenge in a way that would damage oneself more than the object of one's anger.

Excellent description of Trump supporters.

 

[smartcooky]

...I dislike him because he is a nasty, spoilt, vindictive person and because he lies so much in the most obvious ways. I think he could well be a psychopath:

Symptoms and signs of psychopathy:

Superficial charm and glibness.
Inflated sense of self-worth.
Constant need for stimulation.
Lying pathologically.
Conning others; being manipulative.
Lack of remorse or guilt.
Shallow emotions.
Callousness; lack of empathy.

Is there such a thing as a narcissistic psychopath?

I think that is what most people cannot understand about Trump supporters. They seem to be more interested in sticking it to the lefties than worrying about the fact that their leader is a dangerous moron. I mean do you care at all that Trump is snuggling up to an aggressive state that is quite obviously trying to inflict damage on the US? Are you quite sure you are willing to ignore that (irrespective of whether he has done anything illegal concerning Russian involvement)?

Do they care that he has insulted allied national leaders and crapped all over America's allies?

Do they care that he cannot open his mouth without lying.

Do they care that he stirs up racial hatred in America and that he thinks Nazis, the KKK and their associates are "good people"?

Do they care that he engenders religious bigotry?

Do they care that he encourages discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation?

Anyone who supports Trump supports homophobia, racism, white nationalism, and religious bigotry, and is happy to have a total moron in the highest political office in the land.

 

[Ziggurat]

My impression of you from your posts is one of the usual non thinking, left wing xenophobic, Trump apologist.

Then you haven’t really been paying attention.

The thing about Trump is, and it is quite obvious to anyone who really watches and listens to what he says and does, and putting his political leanings to one side for a moment, that he is a complete idiot who appears to only care about himself.

I am fully prepared to believe Trump only cares about himself (and you should always suspect that about all politicians anyways). But if you think Trump is stupid, then you don’t understand him at all. He didn’t defeat Hillary just by dumb luck. And it serves his purposes for his opponents to have such a low esteem for him.

 

[Ziggurat]

I'm not going to bother trying. I think those that read the US Politics forum already know the answer. I'll let them decide for themselves.

I can’t even say “as expected”, because you couldn’t back up your claim even if you wanted to, since it’s just wrong. It wasn’t just expected, it was inevitable. The straw man isn’t just in your posts, it’s actually inside your head.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Anyone who supports Trump supports homophobia, racism, white nationalism, and religious bigotry, and is happy to have a total moron in the highest political office in the land.

Shame on you, you left out sexism.

"No soup for you."

 

[Stacyhs]

Remember back when waterboarding was the latest liberal outrage? My, how the sands have shifted.

I'm still waiting to see what Trump action would actually cause a supporter to feel outrage. So far nothing he has done seems to be worthy of their outrage: not his constant lying, not his bullying, not his pettiness, not his vindictiveness, not his mocking of a disabled reporter or insults to a dying war hero, not his assaults on the free press, not his wrenching infants and children away from their mothers, not his assaults on the FBI, not his cozying up to Putin, not his alienating our closest allies, not his assault on our environmental laws, not his penchant for choosing sycophants over qualified and reputable advisors and cabinet members, not his sleazy attitude toward women, not his defense of bigots and racists, not his serial cheating on all of his wives, etc etc etc.

Just what would it take for a Trump supporter to finally feel some outrage?

 

[Stacyhs]

Shame on you, you left out sexism.

"No soup for you."

I see you deny none of them.

 

[Upchurch]

But if you think Trump is stupid, then you don’t understand him at all. He didn’t defeat Hillary just by dumb luck.

Of course not. As with most of his successes, he had help.

 

[a_unique_person]

TDS has infected this forum

It truly is horrifying. Trump is like typhoid Mary. He is the source of all the infections.

 

[Ziggurat]

Zig's never expressed any admiration, great or otherwise, for Trump that I know of.

Because I don’t admire him. He’s frequently underestimated, but his talents aside, he’s petty, vain, vindictive, impulsive, selfish, and crude. I like some things he has done (and dislike others), but at no point have I found him as a person admirable.

He's just getting through the Trump years on here sitting back, and waiting for the times one of us get something demonstrably wrong to correct us.

Well, I do a bit more than that, but yes, I do that too. It passes the time.

 

[Stacyhs]

Then you haven’t really been paying attention.



I am fully prepared to believe Trump only cares about himself (and you should always suspect that about all politicians anyways). But if you think Trump is stupid, then you don’t understand him at all. He didn’t defeat Hillary just by dumb luck. And it serves his purposes for his opponents to have such a low esteem for him.

Trump isn't stupid. He understands exactly how to manipulate those who are stupid.

 

[thaiboxerken]

For a baseless witch hunt, the Mueller investigation is turning up lots of guilty pleas and indictments. Another guilty plea this Friday was a surprise, but only because the Mueller team doesn't leak.

For a guy that claims innocence, Trump sure does have a lot of criminal friends.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Of course not. As with most of his successes, he had help.

Also, illegal help, like most of his successes.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Just what would it take for a Trump supporter to finally feel some outrage?

A sex scandal involving Rosie O'Donnell. Yep, that would do it.

 

[Stacyhs]

For a baseless witch hunt, the Mueller investigation is turning up lots of guilty pleas and indictments. Another guilty plea this Friday was a surprise, but only because the Mueller team doesn't leak.

For a guy that claims innocence, Trump sure does have a lot of criminal friends.

As the saying goes, if you want to know the measure of a man, look at who his friends are.

 

[kellyb]

Remember back when waterboarding was the latest liberal outrage? My, how the sands have shifted.

I still think people should go to jail over the torture.

Maybe that's why I'm one of the only people here without a security clearance. LOL

 

[acbytesla]

Of course not. As with most of his successes, he had help.

Yea, it didn't hurt partnering up with the Russians. Still, a full 3 million more votes were cast for Hillary than for Trump.

 

[Stacyhs]

A sex scandal involving Rosie O'Donnell. Yep, that would do it.

With his history of hitting on any female within reach of his pudgy little hands, I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't at least tried. It would explain his attitude toward her. He can't stand being turned down.

 

[smartcooky]

Of course not. As with most of his successes, he had help.

Yeah, this time from his old chum Vladimir, a few Russian hackers and a number of crooks (like Manafort, Gates and Cohen)