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The Treasury Department reports that in the first 10 months of this budget year, the deficit totaled $684 billion, up 20.8 percent from the same period last year. Revenues are up only 1 percent this year with the increase held back by a big drop in corporate tax payments. Spending is up 4.4 percent, reflecting a big boost Congress approved earlier this year for domestic and military programs and rising costs to finance the debt.
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acbytesla said:
The argument that windmills kill birds is notoriously bad.

It is estimated that wind turbines kill anywhere between 25 thousand to as many as 600,000 birds worldwide. Except nobody really knows. There have been few real studies with credible data collection.

Sounds like a lot of birds. It's not. Glass skyscrapers kill millions of birds. Windows are huge bird killers and house cats are estimated to 3.8 BILLION birds every year.

Perspective.
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If we've learned anything its that trumpistas are immune to mere facts and real numbers, they only believe the made up ones Trump himself spouts.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"Fake News, of which there is soooo much (this time the very tired New Yorker) falsely reported that I was going to take the extraordinary step of denying Intelligence Briefings to President Obama. Never discussed or thought of!"


"Even James Clapper has admonished John Brennan for having gone totally off the rails. Maybe Clapper is being nice to me so he doesn’t lose his Security Clearance for lying to Congress!"
"A Blue Wave means Crime and Open Borders. A Red Wave means Safety and Strength!"
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Trump has just admitted that "being nice" to him" is a requirement for keeping one's security clearance. It could not get any clearer that he is threatening those who dare speak out against him. Nah, that's not stifling free speech. He's big on the Second Amendment. Not so much on the First.
 
Trump tweets

"Bill DeBlasio, the high taxing Mayor of NYC, just stole my campaign slogan: PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT! That’s not at all nice. No imagination! @foxandfriends"
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump tweets

"Bill DeBlasio, the high taxing Mayor of NYC, just stole my campaign slogan: PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT! That’s not at all nice. No imagination! @foxandfriends"
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DeBlasio took a page out of Mrs. Trump's playbook "How to Steal a Speech and Pass it Off as Your Own".
 
acbytesla said:
The argument that windmills kill birds is notoriously bad.

It is estimated that wind turbines kill anywhere between 25 thousand to as many as 600,000 birds worldwide. Except nobody really knows. There have been few real studies with credible data collection.

Sounds like a lot of birds. It's not. Glass skyscrapers kill millions of birds. Windows are huge bird killers and house cats are estimated to 3.8 BILLION birds every year.

Perspective.
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Also the double standards are astonishing, removing environmental regulations (so companies can make more profit) therefore harming critters is good unless the company is a windmill company then the effect on critters is of the utmost importance. It almost seems that it isn't the bird deaths that are important.
 
A little news about Kavanaugh (Trump's supreme court nominee).

Republican senator Collins (who claims to be pro-choice/pro-women, and who could in theory be the vote that blocks the appointment) had a meeting with Kavanaugh where he claimed Roe v. Wade was "settled law". So, what this means is that (in theory) Collins is a bit more likely to vote to confirm (since she can point to the claim of "settled law".)

Of course, in practice, abortion laws are still under attack. Even if Kavanaugh won't vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, he could very well vote in favor of other abortion restrictions (perhaps allowing states to impose waiting times, or limits on the number of abortion clinics) without overturning abortion rights completely.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/poli...avanaugh-roe-v-wade-is-settled-law/index.html
 
Segnosaur said:
A little news about Kavanaugh (Trump's supreme court nominee).

Republican senator Collins (who claims to be pro-choice/pro-women, and who could in theory be the vote that blocks the appointment) had a meeting with Kavanaugh where he claimed Roe v. Wade was "settled law". So, what this means is that (in theory) Collins is a bit more likely to vote to confirm (since she can point to the claim of "settled law".)

Of course, in practice, abortion laws are still under attack. Even if Kavanaugh won't vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, he could very well vote in favor of other abortion restrictions (perhaps allowing states to impose waiting times, or limits on the number of abortion clinics) without overturning abortion rights completely.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/poli...avanaugh-roe-v-wade-is-settled-law/index.html
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Exactly. But I still think the major reason Trump nominated Kavanaugh is due to his statements regarding a sitting president's immunity to investigation and criminal indictment.
 
Segnosaur said:
A little news about Kavanaugh (Trump's supreme court nominee).

Republican senator Collins (who claims to be pro-choice/pro-women, and who could in theory be the vote that blocks the appointment) had a meeting with Kavanaugh where he claimed Roe v. Wade was "settled law". So, what this means is that (in theory) Collins is a bit more likely to vote to confirm (since she can point to the claim of "settled law".)

Of course, in practice, abortion laws are still under attack. Even if Kavanaugh won't vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, he could very well vote in favor of other abortion restrictions (perhaps allowing states to impose waiting times, or limits on the number of abortion clinics) without overturning abortion rights completely.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/poli...avanaugh-roe-v-wade-is-settled-law/index.html
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Tammy Duckworth tore into Collins on this. Collins claimed the same thing with Gorsuch, who wrote a book on precedent. And then in one of the first things he did on the SC, he voted to overturn a 100 year old precedent.

These "office assurances" are worth the paper their written on.
 
Stacyhs said:
Exactly. But I still think the major reason Trump nominated Kavanaugh is due to his statements regarding a sitting president's immunity to investigation and criminal indictment.
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Quite possible.

But I've always wondered how it was supposed to work. Even if he were opposed to any sort of investigation, etc. against the president, Kavanaugh would be only one vote on the supreme court. So, you'd have to get 4 other supreme court justices to agree with him on any case involving the president. Now, granted, we can assume that at least some judges would similarly want to give the president a free pass (I think we can assume Gorsuch has no moral principles and would side with Trump), but there is no guarantee that at least one or 2 of the normally conservative-leaning judges will vote against Trump.
 
Stacyhs said:
Exactly. But I still think the major reason Trump nominated Kavanaugh is due to his statements regarding a sitting president's immunity to investigation and criminal indictment.
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And of course how he was so involved in getting Bill Clinton on the stand. As a massive hypocrite that has to appeal to Trump.
 
Segnosaur said:
Quite possible.

But I've always wondered how it was supposed to work. Even if he were opposed to any sort of investigation, etc. against the president, Kavanaugh would be only one vote on the supreme court. So, you'd have to get 4 other supreme court justices to agree with him on any case involving the president. Now, granted, we can assume that at least some judges would similarly want to give the president a free pass (I think we can assume Gorsuch has no moral principles and would side with Trump), but there is no guarantee that at least one or 2 of the normally conservative-leaning judges will vote against Trump.
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I agree that Kavanaugh's being on the court would not guarantee it, but it certainly would indicate to Trump that he'd have at least one arguing that case to the others. As you say, Gorsuch would likely side with Trump and I suspect it would not be that hard to get the other conservative judges to agree. I think we'd see a split on the usual lines. What the SC needed was another moderate to balance the court, not another liberal or conservative.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
There is a distinct lack of dead birds around our local wind farm.
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And my daughter has complained several times to the appropriate department at her work about the dead birds she finds daily at the base of the glass fronted buildings.
 
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