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Cont: The Trump Presidency VIII

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Bob001 said:
The time for that was during the campaign, when CNN and Fox routinely covered Trump rallies and speeches live and filled their days with conversations with Trump surrogates (that loathsome Katrina person appeared frequently). Trump himself claimed he got billions of dollars worth of free air time. But now he is in fact the President. Everything he does is newsworthy. It's too late to shut him out. At least the press is starting to get away from the "on the one hand, on the other hand" role of traditional journalism. When government officials tell blatant, obvious lies, they need to be called out.
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That's why I amended it to "speculation." Cover him but the rest is largely the press talking to itself. For example the pissing matches with Sarah Sanders are not all that germane. If I were a WH reporter I'd probably want to trash her at every opportunity but she's a distraction, a decoy that draws attention away from Trump.

The Washington Post came out with a story a few months ago that pieced together all these huge cash deals Trump had pulled off in a short period of time with the timing raising serious questions about where all that cash came from. That was good reporting. I'm not saying stop that. If the goods are there, go get the goods. But a lot of what fills the airwaves is just verbiage or faux outrage. On both sides, of course.
 
Catchy new campaign slogan for the Democrats:

"We're not going to make America great again. It was never that great."
-- Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo (Aug 15, 2018)​
 
My own tl;dr: A lot of resources are being spent telling people/voters what to think. They need more info and space to think for themselves. But the media keeps helpfully sparing them the effort.

I often read Chris Cillizza's analyses. Generally I agree with him. But I doubt if he's changing anybody's mind. He has a pretty-much-daily column that boils down to, "Why Trump's latest move is the last straw." We're watching a camel being overloaded straw by straw. And I keep thinking that off in the wings, someone is preparing to plop an F-150 onto that poor beast's back. But we don't see it; we are too fixated on the latest straw.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
Catchy new campaign slogan for the Democrats:

"We're not going to make America great again. It was never that great."
-- Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo (Aug 15, 2018)​
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It was a stupid thing to say. But in context, his comment makes sense. If your objective is to generally mock Cuomo, you've got the ammo. If you want to get into what he was actually talking about, more work is required.
 
trump Tweets

"“John Brennan is a stain on the Country, we deserve better than this.” Former Secret Service Agent and author of new book, “Spygate, the Attempted Sabotage of Donald J. Trump,” Dan Bongino. Thank you Dan, and good luck with the book!"
 
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Trump Tweets

“WE’RE NOT GOING TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, IT WAS NEVER THAT GREAT.” Can you believe this is the Governor of the Highest Taxed State in the U.S., Andrew Cuomo, having a total meltdown!"
 
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Minoosh said:
It was a stupid thing to say. But in context, his comment makes sense. If your objective is to generally mock Cuomo, you've got the ammo. If you want to get into what he was actually talking about, more work is required.
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Pretty much. The goal really shouldn't be to make America Great Again, after all. It's to make America Great (for everyone). Make America better than it ever was in the past. I'm not a huge fan of Cuomo, either way, but if that's what he was actually saying, in context, I quite support the sentiment.
 
Foolmewunz said:
The Trump-Omarosa thing fits so perfectly into the NPD theory. When he hired her for the campaign she'd just revealed that he ran for President just to get back at people for when Obama trashed him at the Correspondents Dinner.

Normally, that'd get you about four strikes and yer out! But, she knows him well enough that in the same paragraph she said, Y'all better watch out because now you're going to have to bow down to him. Donnie probably got so excited he wet himself and dropped one of the pussies he was grabbing! "She said I'm to be feared! Hear it! Hear it! All Hail King Donnie Johnny!"

Would anyone in their right mind have hired her? She just revealed to the world that you're a petulant baby and you think "Yeah, that's the kind of stuff I need on my team!" He forgot the first part of her statement the minute he heard how fearsome he was!

Do we think Russian intelligence and Korean intelligence haven't figured this out? "It's okay, Vladi. Tell him his breath still smells of the dog **** he had for breakfast but then say you hear he's got a huge schlong! He'll give you the ******* launch codes!"
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I first wrote her off as a Trump groupie. The bow down to Trump comment was disgustingly over the top.

Then I went with cashing in on a book (good for her but I wouldn't buy one) and doing the sensation sales books book promotion.

Then she played one tape, then two, then three. Now we are in uncharted territory. I do hope she has a lot more tapes.
 
Aridas said:
Pretty much. The goal really shouldn't be to make America Great Again, after all. It's to make America Great (for everyone). Make America better than it ever was in the past. I'm not a huge fan of Cuomo, either way, but if that's what he was actually saying, in context, I quite support the sentiment.
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But part of the greatness was always how effective we were at keeping the blacks down. That is key to american greatness after all.
 
The Big Dog said:
Brennan was a dumpster fire, and his incoherent rants on the cable news were getting to be a national embarrassment.

He should have been locked up after he screwed up Libya so badly.
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It's a bit rich for a Trump supporter to complain about incoherent rants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81kawAPCJrM

Hardly seems to be either ranting or incoherent. Rather articulate in fact. Your problem is that you can't handle the truth that your vote betrayed your country and your dear leader is a Russian whore.
 
dudalb said:
His gut feelings and instincts are better then a thousand generals.
Funny, a guy in Germany about 80 years though the same thing and decided to play soldier . It did not turn out very well for him.
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Although if you look at some of HansMunstermann's posts, he argues convincingly that a lot of the generals were pretty poor too - including Rommel's whole decision to hog resources for the Africa campaign that would have been better used on the Eastern Front.
 
Paul2 said:
So when I say that liking Brendan is unnecessary for criticizing Trump for revoking Brennans security clearance, you reply by talking about people liking Brennan?
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Yes, one could even say that he deserved to lose a particular role, but should still have the clearance.
 
The Big Dog said:
Brennan was a dumpster fire, and his incoherent rants on the cable news were getting to be a national embarrassment.

He should have been locked up after he screwed up Libya so badly.
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What's that got to do with his security clearance being revoked? How does that stop him appearing on the telly?
 
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1029803887287525377

(NOTE) As to Bruce Ohr, who is currently employed by the federal government, Trump's THREAT to revoke his security clearance—which would make him doing his job impossible, and might lead to his termination—is, given the "grounds" Trump has spoken of on Twitter, WITNESS TAMPERING.

(NOTE2) Trump is AWARE that Bruce Ohr is about to testify before House Republicans (see below) and he is seeking to INFLUENCE his testimony, as his statements on Twitter make clear, with this THREAT against him. Mueller will undoubtedly investigate this.

(NOTE3) A key national security expert for MSNBC just said on-air, "This is quite clearly designed to send a chilling effect to all of those who would criticize Donald Trump or his administration that this will not be tolerated." Do people realize that, as to Ohr, that's a CRIME?

(NOTE4) This tweet is now evidence of a federal felony:

(NOTE5) People do not yet realize—but soon will—that Trump has just made as big a mistake as he made in firing Comey. You *cannot* threaten the job of a witness against you in a federal investigation and SAY ON TWITTER that your reason is that he will offer testimony against you.
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Article embedded in #2, and tweet embedded in #4.
 
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