Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 5

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Referendums are only advisory in the UK anyways so it matters not what the individual leave voter wants/thinks he voted for. The Government is the final arbiter, not Mr EDL from Clacton who doesn't like Darkies.
 
RolandRat said:
Referendums are only advisory in the UK anyways so it matters not what the individual leave voter wants/thinks he voted for. The Government is the final arbiter, not Mr EDL from Clacton who doesn't like Darkies.
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Except that the Government doesn't seem to agree with that as far as this particular referendum is concerned.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
Except that the Government doesn't seem to agree with that as far as this particular referendum is concerned.

Dave
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One reason for that being that the government (at taxpayers' expense) sent out a leaflet to every household in the country promising that it would implement the result of the referendum.


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angrysoba said:
Sounds like a good new slogan for a bus. And it could end up being just as truthful with:

a) the unresolved problem of the Irish border
b) the growing desire of Scotland to be independent and remain in the EU
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Hey Wales will probably stay with England so it can still claim to be the UK.
 
ceptimus said:
One reason for that being that the government (at taxpayers' expense) sent out a leaflet to every household in the country promising that it would implement the result of the referendum.


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That's just a political promise. The government that made that promise cannot guarantee it will be kept by any future government, particularly not one that gets elected on a manifesto promise to stop Brexit.

This particular referendum was not legally binding, so a government could ignore it if it so wished. Unfortunately, the only party that has the balls to say it will stop this madness is the Lib-Dems and they aren't going to get power any time soon.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Ultimately the backstop is we elect a Lib Dem government and go crawling back to the EU. You need to ask yourself if things could ever be so awful that we'd go to the lengths of electing a Lib Dem government. It just seems inconceivable things can get that desperate.
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Electing a LibDem government is mainly inconceivable for the same reason that the referendum only offered the choice of Leave / Remain; the fundamental principle of British politics that it's impossible to count as high as three.

Dave
 
angrysoba said:
That’s actually historically part of the Kingdom of England.
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You can take your stinkin' fake news and stuff it! Offa's dyke will be refurbed, and The Welsh will pay for it! Damn leek-eating perverts coming to England with their laver bread addictions and their male voice choirs! It's gonna be a great dyke. The best dyke ever!
 
ceptimus said:
One reason for that being that the government (at taxpayers' expense) sent out a leaflet to every household in the country promising that it would implement the result of the referendum.


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That statement is NOT legally binding. You seem to have some trouble understanding that.
 
GlennB said:
You can take your stinkin' fake news and stuff it! Offa's dyke will be refurbed, and The Welsh will pay for it! Damn leek-eating perverts coming to England with their laver bread addictions and their male voice choirs! It's gonna be a great dyke. The best dyke ever!
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When will Hadrian's Wall be modernized and remanned?
 
dudalb said:
That statement is NOT legally binding. You seem to have some trouble understanding that.
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No need for insults. If you've read my earlier posts then you already knew that you were wrong about me not understanding.

The current Conservative government won't renege as they know that would be seen as betrayal by their supporters and they wouldn't get reelected. They are already flirting dangerously with betraying their supporters by pushing the pseudo-remain Chequers policy.

Another party could stand on a manifesto of ignoring the referendum result: the party that tried that last election (Liberal Democrats) got soundly beaten; maybe some other minor parties also said similar. The two main parties both stood on manifestos of implementing the democratic choice made in the referendum. I suppose the Labour party could yet change its mind for the next election.
 
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Not with Corbyn in charge. How can he hope to lead us to the great socialist utopia if we dont first break free of the capitalist club which is the EU?
 
ceptimus said:
Another party could stand on a manifesto of ignoring the referendum result: the party that tried that last election (Liberal Democrats) got soundly beaten; maybe some other minor parties also said similar. The two main parties both stood on manifestos of implementing the democratic choice made in the referendum. I suppose the Labour party could yet change its mind for the next election.
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Or, of course, another party could stand on a manifesto of holding a final referendum in which, now that more is known about the likely courses open to the UK, the electorate could confirm or deny its earlier, less-informed choice - a bit like the 30 day period of grace on credit card purchases, which allows people to send back goods that turn out not to perform as advertised. If rebel Labour MPs manage to oust Corbyn, that could become more likely. But no doubt holding a second referendum is, for some bizarre reason, undemocratic.

Dave
 
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