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acbytesla said:
54 to 48 percent of Republican voters in 48 light red districts (Republican held) said that the Republican party was more corrupt than the Democratic Party. 60 percent of Independent voters also came to that conclusion.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/17/corruption-republicans-democrats-poll-728977
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I've never been called for one of these polls. Democrats throw out these fake polls (remember the election) when they're trying to distract from the most important things happening TODAY, like illegal immigration and Clinton's e-mails.
 
acbytesla said:
54 to 48 percent of Republican voters in 48 light red districts (Republican held) ...
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God damn... how many of them are there? They've reached saturation, and are bleeding over into the normal folks percentages. :(


(Sorry... that first bit just reads strange. Is it a range of respondents, or a typo? ;) )
 
Minoosh said:
You're right; it depends on what Putin was trying to accomplish. I'm still not sure. Does he want to wield Trump like a blunt instrument, or like a scalpel?
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Putin seems to want to use Trump as a condom.
 
Jim_MDP said:
God damn... how many of them are there? They've reached saturation, and are bleeding over into the normal folks percentages. :(


(Sorry... that first bit just reads strange. Is it a range of respondents, or a typo? ;) )
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Sorry, it does.

There are 236 Red districts. This was a poll conducted in 48 swing districts where seats are heavily contested. Of those who identified as Republican 54 percent responded that that of the two major parties the Republican party was more corrupt. 46 percent said the Democratic party was more corrupt. 60 percent of Independent voters in those districts said the Republican party was more corrupt.
 
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Cain said:
I've never been called for one of these polls. Democrats throw out these fake polls (remember the election) when they're trying to distract from the most important things happening TODAY, like illegal immigration and Clinton's e-mails.
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LSSBB said:
I have. I hung up.
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I use to make those calls. I worked for a polling company for 2 years. Most people hang up or won't answer questions. This was a sample of 1200 people. That's around 10,000 calls.
 
Cain said:
I've never been called for one of these polls. Democrats throw out these fake polls (remember the election) when they're trying to distract from the most important things happening TODAY, like illegal immigration and Clinton's e-mails.
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There is no Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a lie invented by China to destroy America's economy.
 
acbytesla said:
Sorry, it does.

There are 236 Red districts. This was a poll conducted in 48 swing districts where seats are heavily contested. Of those who identified as Republican 54 percent responded that that of the two major parties the Republican party was more corrupt. 48 percent said the Democratic party was more corrupt. 60 percent of Independent voters in those districts said the Republican party was more corrupt.
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That comes to 102%.:confused:
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"I told you so! The European Union just slapped a Five Billion Dollar fine on one of our great companies, Google. They truly have taken advantage of the U.S., but not for long!"
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That's a joke, right?

...right?

Damnit, now I have to go check.


Edit: holy ****.
 
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acbytesla said:
54 to 48 percent of Republican voters in 48 light red districts (Republican held) said that the Republican party was more corrupt than the Democratic Party. 60 percent of Independent voters also came to that conclusion.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/17/corruption-republicans-democrats-poll-728977
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The numbers are interesting but it bothers me a little that this is a poll by the Center for American Progress Action Fund. With GOP loyalty still very strong I struggle to reconcile these findings. It might be that Trump wins Republican's approval while his Cabinet and Congress taking the hit. Finding the right approach, the right message to apply these findings should require strategizing.

And maybe corruption isn't a deal breaker with Republican voters.

Isn't it about time for primary advertising to pick up? I haven't seen much.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Edit: holy ****.
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I hope that's a starting position, a number designed to get attention, a warning against blatant attempts to monopolize.

In a suit involving Microsoft, "An antitrust case with the European Union was settled in 2009, although Microsoft is still appealing a $1.4 billion fine for failing to comply with a 2004 antitrust order in Europe," according to the Seattle Times. So there's a precedent for big fines.

$5 billion is 2 weeks of Google revenue and the only reason Trump cares is he's trying to whip up resentment of the EU. The EU is a foe, Russia a praiseworthy competitor.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
Trump is on record on many occasions acknowledging Russian meddling. It's all on tape, but you won't see it on fake news. Tune in to Fox News, Directv channel 360, where they will play the series of tapes from time to time. The truth is out there, but you won't find it on CNN.
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The Hair is also on record saying it was not Russia.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Honestly, the conspiracy theory (pretty much, given the lack of evidence) presented by Wolff in Fire and Fury that it was all a show and that he never meant to actually win actually seems likely.

We'll never know unless he admits it himself or there's a document leak or something, I suppose. But it would explain all his blatant missteps, from the "grab them by the [cat]" scandal to all the plain weird things he said and did. Wolff likened it to the plot of The Producers: a gang of criminals set out to create a show that is so outlandish and guaranteed to fail... that it accidentally goes on to become a big hit.
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Honestly, given the things that he was actually saying at the time, it sure gave me the impression, at the time, that Trump (and his campaign) was fully expecting to lose from the start, and what he was actually trying to do was largely in line with what Wolff later claimed.

Safe-Keeper said:
If it does, that's something that happens in polls, actually. When numbers aren't entirely certain, they get estimated and then you have these weird totals that can go above 100%.
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Never seen that happen, myself. There are margins of error, yes, but not totals over 100%. Margins of error do not take one over 100%, to note.
 
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Andrew McCarthy - “I said this could never happen. This is so bad that they should be looking at the judges who signed off on this stuff, not just the people who gave it. It is so bad it screams out at you.” On the whole FISA scam which led to the rigged Mueller Witch Hunt!
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Delicious. I love his tweets when you can tell he's really suffering serious anxiety.
 
Minoosh said:
I hope that's a starting position, a number designed to get attention, a warning against blatant attempts to monopolize.

In a suit involving Microsoft, "An antitrust case with the European Union was settled in 2009, although Microsoft is still appealing a $1.4 billion fine for failing to comply with a 2004 antitrust order in Europe," according to the Seattle Times. So there's a precedent for big fines.

$5 billion is 2 weeks of Google revenue and the only reason Trump cares is he's trying to whip up resentment of the EU. The EU is a foe, Russia a praiseworthy competitor.
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Oh, I knew about the lawsuit. I was just blown away by Trump's tweet :P .
And his idea that the EU is actually suing companies for fun, just to make money off of them, is, well, something only Trump would say.
 
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