Cont: The Trump Presidency VIII

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I think you're right but then again it could be a deliberate ploy to raise outrage in his base.

It could well be both. He truly doesn't understand the difference and when one of his bootlickers suggested he say something about it he recognized that it would appeal to his base, not giving a fig one way or the other as to the nuances.
 
It could well be both. He truly doesn't understand the difference and when one of his bootlickers suggested he say something about it he recognized that it would appeal to his base, not giving a fig one way or the other as to the nuances.
I think it's people at FoxNews who judge what will appeal to Trump's base then send it through the bube-tube straight into the boob.
 
I think it's people at FoxNews who judge what will appeal to Trump's base then send it through the bube-tube straight into the boob.

Life has become easy and boring for Fox: instead of having to appeal to their regular viewers, they only have to appeal to Trump and the rest will follow like ducklings. A focus group of one, with almost instant feedback. A dream for content providers.
 
Life has become easy and boring for Fox: instead of having to appeal to their regular viewers, they only have to appeal to Trump and the rest will follow like ducklings. A focus group of one, with almost instant feedback. A dream for content providers.

Hell they have Hannity finding out exactly what he wants to hear every night from him.
 
Trump once again showing his sheer ignorance

Angela Merkel hits back at Donald Trump at Nato summit

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ssians?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

I'm totally digging Trump's scathing and wild commentary on all things European. It's just what people here in the EU needed in order to remember regional security is a genuine top concern, not something out of history books. Lying Ivan to the East, Child-abusing Uncle Sam to the West, Emperor Xi on the move along the Silk Road: time to get very serious about putting the European house in order.
 
The US wants germany to buy their NLG instead of building north stream 2.
The go-to spin was so far "You are making yourself dependent on russian gas!"
I'm suprised nobody remembers. You'd think the pearl clutchers would be satisfied if trump went main-stream antirussian.

So: Do you need a new spin for north stream opposition, now that trump has sullied it?

Btw: 50 years of gas deliveries to austria! We have been buying russian gas since before I was alive! So telling austrians (and germans to a lesser extent) that we should buy american because the russians are unreliable is a *very* hard sell...
 
I'm totally digging Trump's scathing and wild commentary on all things European. It's just what people here in the EU needed in order to remember regional security is a genuine top concern, not something out of history books. Lying Ivan to the East, Child-abusing Uncle Sam to the West, Emperor Xi on the move along the Silk Road: time to get very serious about putting the European house in order.

I assume that whatever President Kidcage said is just him projecting his own issues again, but all things considered...you're not really wrong here.
 
Update on Donald Trump's claim that:

Germany is totally controlled by Russia because they will be getting from 60% to 70% of their energy from Russia, and a new pipeline, and you tell me if that's appropriate because I think it's not and I think it's a very bad thing for Nato

Actually:

EU figures suggest Russia is responsible for between 50% and 75% of Germany's gas imports, but gas makes up less than 20% of Germany's power production.

President Trump lying - what a shocker :rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44780489
 
I'm totally digging Trump's scathing and wild commentary on all things European. It's just what people here in the EU needed in order to remember regional security is a genuine top concern, not something out of history books. Lying Ivan to the East, Child-abusing Uncle Sam to the West, Emperor Xi on the move along the Silk Road: time to get very serious about putting the European house in order.

That is a lot of tough talk from a government that has repeatedly failed to live up to the 2% target. That target has been around for years.
 
The US wants germany to buy their NLG instead of building north stream 2.
The go-to spin was so far "You are making yourself dependent on russian gas!"
You know, there is a certain logic here.... why make your economy dependant on purchases from a (potential) foe? Find an alternative and 1) it makes your economy less dependent on the actions of the foe, and 2) you can starve the foe of cash.

There are 2 problems here:

- At this point, the U.S. appears to be almost as belligerent as Russia. So making yourself dependant on a country run by a racist orangutan that appears to have no functional checks and balances in place in their political system and who seems intent on starting a trade war which could crash the global economy doesn't really seem to be that much of a step up from depending on Russia.

- The better option is not to buy your gas from the U.S. The better option is to end the use of fossil fuels altogether. Of course, that's not something the U.S. is interested in. (Granted, natural gas is 'cleaner' than some alternatives like coal, but it still produces greenhouse gases.)
I'm suprised nobody remembers.
Pepperage farm remembers.
 
I'm totally digging Trump's scathing and wild commentary on all things European. It's just what people here in the EU needed in order to remember regional security is a genuine top concern, not something out of history books. Lying Ivan to the East, Child-abusing Uncle Sam to the West, Emperor Xi on the move along the Silk Road: time to get very serious about putting the European house in order.

Could you forward this to Theresa May, please?
 
I was surprised the other day to find out the U.S. imports oil from Venezuela. But also, in 2016 Venezuela imported oil from the U.S. It apparently needs lighter oil to mix with its own heavy oil to facilitate the refining process.

I'm wondering who is feeding Trump his talking points - I know Stephen Miller is very influential domestically, but I have no idea whose counsel he heeds when, for example, smearing Germany. His manipulation of facts is somewhat sophisticated, in that he (mis)applies actual numbers to come up with his 70 percent figure, when in fact Russia probably supplies about 10 percent of Germany's energy needs.

Is Putin wondering WTF Trump is doing, trying to steal Russia's customers? Besides which, the energy required to transport energy means essentially less net energy.

Something is going on with him and trade - he seems very touchy about it, for example lashing out at Canada and the World Health Organization which respect to tariffs/policies that undermine U.S. attempts to unload its dairy surplus on other countries. I get the feeling he is frustrated to find out how interconnected the world is, how other countries trade with each other rather than somehow being dependent on the U.S., which is a net importer of just about everything (except cereal crops and, probably, weapons).

No one knew global trade could be so complicated!
 
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At this point, the U.S. appears to be almost as belligerent as Russia. So making yourself dependant on a country run by a racist orangutan that appears to have no functional checks and balances in place in their political system and who seems intent on starting a trade war which could crash the global economy doesn't really seem to be that much of a step up from depending on Russia.
In fact the U.S. is probably more belligerent than Russia. Putin seems coolly rational while Trump is such a hothead you never know what he's going to do next.

The funny thing is, IMO Trump is not totally wrong about NATO. On the other hand, it's a check on any Russian ambition to rebuild its erstwhile empire.
 
I see it as underpinning the importance of NATO more than anything. How important is this coallition really? Countries unwilling or unable to meet their contributions, along with one of the head countries becoming dependent on the source of it's necessity(Russia) for an energy need.

Although can't really see how natural gas would be the largest wartime energy source. The accuracy of his statement is not important to him, just the general outline to lessen the purpose and importance of NATO. And throw shade again on any country not meeting their requirements.
 
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