Cont: Breaking: Mueller Grand Jury charges filed, arrests as soon as Monday pt 2

[Cabbage]

It is an expression, overpromising underdelivering.

Yes, we're aware it's an expression. The point is, most people refrain from using it except when it's applicable. LOL

 

[Ziggurat]

Yes, we're aware it's an expression. The point is, most people refrain from using it except when it's applicable. LOL

It is applicable here. Mueller indicted on charges he's not ready to prosecute on. He's left trying to delay a trial he called for, using excuses that normally the defense, not the prosecution, would use.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I posted this in the main Trump thread, but part of it is relevant here, too:

Trump has said in a new interview that he's planning more tax cuts for just before the election, that his Supreme Court picks might end up seeing abortion becoming illegal in some states, and says he might get involved with the Russia investigation

 

[plague311]

It is applicable here. Mueller indicted on charges he's not ready to prosecute on. He's left trying to delay a trial he called for, using excuses that normally the defense, not the prosecution, would use.

********, what are you making that statement based on? He's not delaying the trial, he's making it so the evidence can't be shared with people who shouldn't have it. It must be a pain in the ass to have to be so partisan you've turned yourself into an excuse machine for the Russian's

 

[Ziggurat]

********, what are you making that statement based on? He's not delaying the trial, he's making it so the evidence can't be shared with people who shouldn't have it. It must be a pain in the ass to have to be so partisan you've turned yourself into an excuse machine for the Russian's

What am I basing it on? Oh, just public reporting on the case. For example:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627
This is separate from the evidence sharing issue (I never claimed they were the same), but it's quite real.

Will you retract your allegations against me?

 

[NoahFence]

What am I basing it on? Oh, just public reporting on the case. For example:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627
This is separate from the evidence sharing issue (I never claimed they were the same), but it's quite real.

Will you retract your allegations against me?

How about you do the same for me. Take the first step.

 

[Ziggurat]

How about you do the same for me. Take the first step.

First step: clarify your past position on the topic, then we can evaluate whether my claim was wrong.

 

[theprestige]

********, what are you making that statement based on? He's not delaying the trial, he's making it so the evidence can't be shared with people who shouldn't have it.

I agree that in order to have a fair trial, the defense should have the evidence the prosecution plans to use against them, so that they can prepare an adequate rebuttal. The prosecution should not be required to share the evidence with anyone other than the defense, before the trial.

 

[The Big Dog]

I agree that in order to have a fair trial, the defense should have the evidence the prosecution plans to use against them, so that they can prepare an adequate rebuttal. The prosecution should not be required to share the evidence with anyone other than the defense, before the trial.

The prosecution is not, what the prosecution is trying to do is limit what the defense attorneys working on the case can do with the information, up to and including sharing it with their client.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

What am I basing it on? Oh, just public reporting on the case. For example:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627

That article doesn't state that Mueller isn't ready to prosecute the case, it says that he was asking for a delay because it was unclear whether the defendants had formally accepted the summons related to the case.

 

[Ziggurat]

That article doesn't state that Mueller isn't ready to prosecute the case, it says that he was asking for a delay because it was unclear whether the defendants had formally accepted the summons related to the case.

Of course Mueller isn't going to say he's not ready to prosecute, but that's obviously the case. The reason to delay a case because of problems with the summons is if the defense isn't ready to proceed because problems with the summons delayed the defendant from being notified in time to prepare. But the defense is ready. It's a joke that Mueller is asking for a delay basically on their behalf when they don't want one. That's why his motion was denied.

 

[The Big Dog]

That article doesn't state that Mueller isn't ready to prosecute the case, it says that he was asking for a delay because it was unclear whether the defendants had formally accepted the summons related to the case.

You mean the defendant who was represented by counsel standing in court and therefore clearly and unmistakably accepted the summons and voluntarily appeared in court? That defendant?

Mueller's argument was what legal beagles call "specious" or in lay man's terms, *********** stupid.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

It's a shame the MDC is no longer with us. You guys would clean up with that kind of mind-reading ability.

 

[NoahFence]

First step: clarify your past position on the topic, then we can evaluate whether my claim was wrong.

Nope. You made a retarded assertion in another thread and have yet to apologize for it or retract it.

Go there and take the first step and then maybe you'll be in a position to request that others do likewise for you.

 

[The Big Dog]

It's a shame the MDC is no longer with us. You guys would clean up with that kind of mind-reading ability.

Mind reading? Oh man:

Mueller's team: Judge I am mind reading that they didn't accept accept the summons.
Defense lawyer: Bruh, i am standing right here.
MT: Voices Judge, I hear dead people.
Judge: SMDH motion denied.

 

[plague311]

What am I basing it on? Oh, just public reporting on the case. For example:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627
This is separate from the evidence sharing issue (I never claimed they were the same), but it's quite real.

Will you retract your allegations against me?

Can you show me in that article the specific part where it claims that Mueller was not ready?

Nevermind, I saw your next post where you basically admit that you were wrong, you were making this up, but if we just "read between the lines" then we'll all know. DA TWOOF WILL COME OUT IF WE REED BETWENE DA LINEZ"

 

[plague311]

Mind reading? Oh man:

Mueller's team: Judge I am mind reading that they didn't accept accept the summons.
Defense lawyer: Bruh, i am standing right here.
MT: Voices Judge, I hear dead people.
Judge: SMDH motion denied.

Can you explain to me the specific process in receiving a summons, and what the process is once you receive the summons to proceed? The politico article that Zigg was kind enough to self-own himself with has some pretty good details on how Mueller was trying to strictly follow protocol.

 

[Ziggurat]

Can you show me in that article the specific part where it claims that Mueller was not ready?

Nevermind, I saw your next post where you basically admit that you were wrong, you were making this up, but if we just "read between the lines" then we'll all know. DA TWOOF WILL COME OUT IF WE REED BETWENE DA LINEZ"

You're in denial. It's obvious Mueller isn't ready. If he was ready, he wouldn't ask for a delay. That is the entire point of asking for a delay: to get more time to get ready. It doesn't take any special powers to recognize this, nor is it any sort of conspiracy theory. It's all quite ordinary, and quite obvious.

If you aren't suffering from recto-cranial inversion, that is.

 

[theprestige]

The prosecution is not, what the prosecution is trying to do is limit what the defense attorneys working on the case can do with the information, up to and including sharing it with their client.

If that's true, then it's wrong. If the defendant were to represent himself, the prosecution would have no choice but to share their evidence with him. I don't see how engaging legal assistance changes this.

 

[Ziggurat]

Can you explain to me the specific process in receiving a summons, and what the process is once you receive the summons to proceed? The politico article that Zigg was kind enough to self-own himself with has some pretty good details on how Mueller was trying to strictly follow protocol.

The efforts to send the summons was following protocol. But the entire point of that protocol is to ensure the defendant's right to a proper legal defense. When the defense doesn't want a delay, asking for one on their behalf is not strictly following protocol. There is no protocol that requires Mueller to request a delay. It's an excuse, a transparent one that the judge wasn't buying, and with good reason.