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The Trump Presidency VII

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Craig4 said:
I suspect Trump might fire Sessions for coming up with this policy.
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Maybe, but I'm not so sure. I think a great many Republican Congressmen and Senators don't trust Trump and Sessions is one of them.
 
Foolmewunz said:
The other shocker was Scaramucci coming out hard against the policy. Note to Donnie Johnny, when guys called "The Fixer" and "The Mooch", like out of a Damon Runyan short story, think you're a reprehensible sack of ****, it's time to throw Miller and Sessions and the other Klan types out of your inner circle.
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Nah, Scaramucci was pretty much Joe Pesci in a Marty Scorsese Mafia movie....
 
What is scary is that Trump, with his mindless obsession with looking strong,will try to recoup his humiliation..and, except for his most brain dead supporters,that is what he has suffered here....somewhere else.
 
acbytesla said:
Also, i dont really think Sessions is in his inner circle. I just dont think Trump can get rid of him.
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"Inner Circle" with Trump means family. And he's certainly not that deep inside, but lest we forget the first frightening signs that there was more to Trump than just a book tour was when he was being pressured (intra-party) to come up with policies and his Go To was Bannon/Coulter/Sessions. The slime of the alt-right. Sessions wrote much of the verbage on his campaign site and is just reprehensible enough to appeal to the Stones, Millers and Bannons of the world. Their falling out has nothing to do with ideology. Trump wants him to fall on his sword and commit political suicide by unrecusing himself so that he can lead the fight against Mueller.
 
Foolmewunz said:
"Inner Circle" with Trump means family. And he's certainly not that deep inside, but lest we forget the first frightening signs that there was more to Trump than just a book tour was when he was being pressured (intra-party) to come up with policies and his Go To was Bannon/Coulter/Sessions. The slime of the alt-right. Sessions wrote much of the verbage on his campaign site and is just reprehensible enough to appeal to the Stones, Millers and Bannons of the world. Their falling out has nothing to do with ideology. Trump wants him to fall on his sword and commit political suicide by unrecusing himself so that he can lead the fight against Mueller.
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I think you're right that Trump wants that. But I don't buy Sessions doing that. He didn't quit the United States Senate just to be Trump's altar sacrifice. He also likes being the AG. Sessions is a racist pig, but he considers himself to be dignified Southern gentleman. He probably had no issue with this policy and it may have been his idea as much as it was Trump. But I think he is going to have to be fired, before he leaves.
 
Craig4 said:
I suspect Trump might fire Sessions for coming up with this policy.
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Do we know if Miller or Sessions were the original source? The whole group of them are racist as hell, but whose bright idea was it in the first place? I'm not sure. I do think Sessions and Miller are the top candidates.
 
Foolmewunz said:
"Inner Circle" with Trump means family. And he's certainly not that deep inside, but lest we forget the first frightening signs that there was more to Trump than just a book tour was when he was being pressured (intra-party) to come up with policies and his Go To was Bannon/Coulter/Sessions. The slime of the alt-right. Sessions wrote much of the verbage on his campaign site and is just reprehensible enough to appeal to the Stones, Millers and Bannons of the world. Their falling out has nothing to do with ideology. Trump wants him to fall on his sword and commit political suicide by unrecusing himself so that he can lead the fight against Mueller.
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[sidenote] Coulter is trying to make herself relevant. I don't see her succeeding at this point. The boys haven't invited her into their club. [/sidenote]
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Do we know if Miller or Sessions were the original source? The whole group of them are racist as hell, but whose bright idea was it in the first place? I'm not sure. I do think Sessions and Miller are the top candidates.
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Either way, seems like this was planned. Cracking down on families seeking asylum was the original point, not upholding the law. Given the Catch-22 they set up, very much including effectively removing the normal legal ways of seeking asylum, it looks like rather credible as a report.
 
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acbytesla said:
Sessions is a racist pig, but he considers himself to be dignified Southern gentleman. He probably had no issue with this policy and it may have been his idea as much as it was Trump.
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I thought the way he announced DACA ending was sick. There was a smug, joyless, malicious glee in the phrase "has been rescinded." Like he was scolding scofflaws who thought they were going to get away with it but they had another thing coming.

But people seemed to like him in the Senate so maybe this is not how he comes across at all.

If you say you're going to end "catch and release," separation of families is an unavoidable consequence. "Zero tolerance" is almost always a bad policy, but I'm sure it helps sew up the xenophobe vote.
 
Minoosh said:
I thought the way he announced DACA ending was sick. There was a smug, joyless, malicious glee in the phrase "has been rescinded." Like he was scolding scofflaws who thought they were going to get away with it but they had another thing coming.

But people seemed to like him in the Senate so maybe this is not how he comes across at all.
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He was a member of the Senate, but it;'s worth noting that Manchin was the only Dem to vote to confirm him - and several senators brought up his atrocious civil rights record specifically, including Sens. Warren and Durbin.

People knew what he'd be up to as soon as he was announced as AG - and again, it's exactly the white supremacism that Dolt 45 campaigned on.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump tweeted

"It’s the Democrats fault, they won’t give us the votes needed to pass good immigration legislation. They want open borders, which breeds horrible crime. Republicans want security. But I am working on something - it never ends!"
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This might be worthy of further study if the Republicans didn't have a majority in both houses of the Congress.

He's not very creative with his excuses. It's a credit to the stupidity of his supporters that they can't see right through it.

McHrozni
 
When Sessions was Quoting Romans 13 to justify the zero tolerance immigration policy, the ****-eating grin he wore the whole time was weird and unsettling. It suggested a glee that he just couldn't hide. He does seem to get off on visiting harm to the vulnerable.

And that baleful visage of Stephen Miller's. Christ, what a creepy Wormtongue to have whispering into the ear of that weak-minded and addled Russian Whore. Miller's aural (must... not... think... oral!) caresses surely help to keep up Trump's unwavering resolve in matters non-white, much like Dr. Morel's intravenous cocktails kept Hitler in fine enough fettle to fulminate against the Jews to the bitter end while his racked and ravaged brain collapsed along with his Thousand Year Reich.
 
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Lurch said:
When Sessions was Quoting Romans 13 to justify the zero tolerance immigration policy, the ****-eating grin he wore the whole time was weird and unsettling. It suggested a glee that he just couldn't hide. He does seem to get off on visiting harm to the vulnerable.
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Romans 13 is a passage that may yet come in handy. Can you think of a better header for the document proclaiming Trumps' impeachment from now on?

McHrozni
 
Lurch said:
When Sessions was Quoting Romans 13 to justify the zero tolerance immigration policy, the ****-eating grin he wore the whole time was weird and unsettling. It suggested a glee that he just couldn't hide. He does seem to get off on visiting harm to the vulnerable.
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The slobbering was a bit over the top - but I've said my opinion of him enough.
 
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