Trump immigrant family separation policy

Why do you even bother?

Because I actually know the answer. I find threats against ICE employees and their children horrible, deplorable, and such people should be prosecuted under the law.

But ripping brown children from their families? That's a-ok in the eyes of the right! Which is why I said 'womp womp'. Because the 'Righteous Right'tm doesn't care. They declared 'womp womp' when faced with the whole mess about putting children in cages. They just don't give a ****.
 
Trump and his supporters admitting they got this one wrong? Yeah, I'll enjoy it.

I'm kidding, of course. They never do this.

We’ll have to see what he comes up with first. I don’t think your sides going to like it.

At least Senator Shumer and all the leftists showed their hand.....once again.
 
We’ll have to see what he comes up with first. I don’t think your sides going to like it.

At least Senator Shumer and all the leftists showed their hand.....once again.

They don't like it already, it is already pure politics. Did you see the post that said was Trump was a coward for doing it, but added "good for the children" as a complete afterthought?
 
Who did you vote for for congress?
I voted for August (O'Neill) Deuser, Republican
Ok, so you voted for someone who lost. Yet had they won, that would have been one more republican in Congress.

Now, I don't have a crystal ball to know how exactly he would have voted for legislation if he were in congress, but given the fact that he has a 'pro-life' link on his web page, I rather suspect he would have followed the majority and supported Trump.

So yes, you are illustrating my point for me perfectly... the "I'm really against Trump" voter who is still voting in a way that still benefits Trump indirectly.
 
And the whole "less powerful than Trump" bait and switch red herring derail is utterly specious.

Someone recommended attacking the children of ICE employees.
He is not as influential as Trump.

I guess the left does feel the threats are acceptable, because they sure have done nothing to "deplore" them.

One idiot making a threat = all the 'left'

The White House making threats = no problem.
 
Ok, so you voted for someone who lost. Yet had they won, that would have been one more republican in Congress.

Now, I don't have a crystal ball to know how exactly he would have voted for legislation if he were in congress, but given the fact that he has a 'pro-life' link on his web page, I rather suspect he would have followed the majority and supported Trump.

So yes, you are illustrating my point for me perfectly... the "I'm really against Trump" voter who is still voting in a way that still benefits Trump indirectly.

Where does that end? Are you employed? Do you purchase stuff? Your activity is contributing to the economy and unemployment figures. A healthy economy benefits Trump indirectly and makes it easier for him to enact his agenda.
 
A voter can absolutely abhor this policy of Trump's yet still support other political goals of the GOP, especially locally. A little too much generalization here.
 
A voter can absolutely abhor this policy of Trump's yet still support other political goals of the GOP, especially locally. A little too much generalization here.

You can support the party of Trump while abhorring Trump? No, not rationally, you can't.
 
Will the kids previously taken from parents be returned?
No one seems to be asking.
If the EO doesn't decree their return will it happen?
Who is responsible?
 
Will the kids previously taken from parents be returned?
No one seems to be asking.
If the EO doesn't decree their return will it happen?
Who is responsible?

From what I read, many if not most will not be returned. Many will be "lost".

Trump is responsible, and at length, the people who voted for him.
 
Glad to see that Trump has agreed to do the right thing. Doesn't excuse the initial policy change but it at least shows that he will cave to political pressure and do the right thing. Call it saving himself, whatever. At least he's ending the practice.
 
You can support the party of Trump while abhorring Trump? No, not rationally, you can't.
He isn't the party.
Yet Trump still enjoys a majority approval rating among Republican voters.

More importantly, every republican senator (many of whom are now complaining about child separation) voted to confirm Jeff Sessions.

If they are a member of the republican party (either a candidate, or a recent republican voter) then your vote played a role in the current child separation issue.
 
Yet Trump still enjoys a majority approval rating among Republican voters.

More importantly, every republican senator (many of whom are now complaining about child separation) voted to confirm Jeff Sessions.

If they are a member of the republican party (either a candidate, or a recent republican voter) then your vote played a role in the current child separation issue.

And many issues that the person does support.
 
Yeah, there's really no place for traditional conservatives anymore. The radical right has taken over the Republican party and it must be soundly defeated. I would feel bad for classic conservatives, but they stood by idle while this cancer spread through their party. They were plenty happy with all the votes the dogwhistle politics brought in, so they own this disaster.

There's been a lot of of apathy in American politics, and lord knows that Hillary was a terrible choice to crack through that apathy. But we've been given an abject lesson in the importance of elections. Elections matter, voting matters.

I held my nose and pulled the lever for Hillary in '16. I'll pull the lever ecstatically for any D in '18 so long as they are anti-Trump. The R's are dead to me until they fully reckon with what they did to us.

Hillary was to the right of Nixon though, seriously would a classical conservative have to vote Bernie?
 

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