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Brexit: Now What? Part IV

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Interesting how it seems all the criminals end up in the UK. It's like they're the Australia of Europe. :p
 
Francesca R said:
That probably still doesn't conjure a customs border from Londonderry to Armagh out of the mist.
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It would be interesting to see a no deal brexit and no one enforcing its outcomes.

It is clear that no one will be ready for anything to actually happen when time runs out.
 
ceptimus said:
EU requests: 14279
UK requests: 241

So which side loses out most by the EU's refusal to cooperate after Brexit?
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The countries lose out and the criminals win.

It is not the EU that is refusing to cooperate. There is a cooperation agreement and the UK has signaled its intention to withdraw from it.

Typical brexiteer behaviour to blame the EU when the consequences of the UK's decision to walk away from an agreement is to whine that the benefits of the agreement are no longer there.
 
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ceptimus said:
EU requests: 14279
UK requests: 241

So which side loses out most by the EU's refusal to cooperate after Brexit?
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Also from the NCA:

Requests: The number of requests received by the UK does not represent the number of wanted people in the UK. Some member states issue requests to numerous member states when they do not know where a subject may be. A large proportion of the requests received by the UK will be for people who are not, and never have been, in the UK. Similarly it would be inaccurate to calculate the number of wanted people in Europe by adding together the total number of requests for every member state. To do this would count the same individuals many times over.
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Lothian said:
Do you still think we can stop free movement when we insist there will be no border between us and the EU?
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It's impossible to totally prevent illegal immigrants, but after we've left the EU and such immigration can be made illegal then at least we can hope to catch and and repatriate or punish at least some of the criminals.
 
ceptimus said:
It's impossible to totally prevent illegal immigrants, but after we've left the EU and such immigration can be made illegal then at least we can hope to catch and and repatriate or punish at least some of the criminals.
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The outcome being a whole bunch of people being caught and punished for trying to put bread on their table (do UK employers face any consequences? In the U.S. it's a token fine/slap on the wrist).

How does a higher presence of an even more exploitable class in your midst and even more of them being caught and punished moving forward...y'know...translate into any kind of net positive benefit for society?
 
ceptimus said:
It's impossible to totally prevent illegal immigrants, but after we've left the EU and such immigration can be made illegal then at least we can hope to catch and and repatriate or punish at least some of the criminals.
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The criminals we don't know about and who we have no record they are here. Perhaps house to house searches will root them out, or ID checks in supermarkets.
 
Lothian said:
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The criminals we don't know about and who we have no record they are here. Perhaps house to house searches will root them out, or ID checks in supermarkets.
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Credit cards, banking, paying for utilities and council tax, employment, vehicle tax and insurance, housing, .... all require identity checks.

Sure, if they have no legal employment, no legal abode, no bank account, pay for everything with cash, don't pay any tax, don't own a vehicle, then they could go undetected indefinitely.
 
ceptimus said:
Credit cards, banking, paying for utilities and council tax, employment, vehicle tax and insurance, housing, .... all require identity checks.

Sure, if they have no legal employment, no legal abode, no bank account, pay for everything with cash, don't pay any tax, don't own a vehicle, then they could go undetected indefinitely.
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...or perhaps assume another identity. :rolleyes:
 
Delphic Oracle said:
How does a higher presence of an even more exploitable class in your midst and even more of them being caught and punished moving forward...y'know...translate into any kind of net positive benefit for society?
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Ask that question of any country that ties to stop illegal immigrants. That is pretty much every country in the world.
 
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