Trump immigrant family separation policy

On a more serious note, for those who claim that the child detention policy is the result of human trafficking concerns: Do you really believe that for every single child being detained, there is a reasonable suspicion of human smuggling?
 
xjx388 said:
Or: Those reports are unsubstantiated and it’s not actually happening. Not saying it couldn’t but I don’t think we need to introduce stuff that may be an exaggeration or false.
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I like to try it as a thought experiment, imaging exactly how people are supposed to get their kids. If they are put on the next transit to, say, Guatemala, what precise procedure is going to ensure family unity? Because unless it's spelled out, you know there are going to be ad hoc "solutions" that don't always work.

Maybe all family members are having their fingerprints scanned. That might help.
 
Trump's masterful deal making with House Republicans:

This member said the President did not convince him to vote for the leadership bill because he never actually said he supported it.

He just kept saying that he supports both House bills.

“Is that how you come and rally support for a bill?” this member said.

The member continued: “I don’t want to be set up again like I was with the Omnibus. He said he supported it then threw us all under the bus.”

The speech was mostly his greatest hits about how popular he is. He even reprised his line about being able to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, indicating that’s how popular he is.
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Linky.
 
Trump's masterful deal making with House Republicans:

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This member said the President did not convince him to vote for the leadership bill because he never actually said he supported it.

He just kept saying that he supports both House bills.

“Is that how you come and rally support for a bill?” this member said.

The member continued: “I don’t want to be set up again like I was with the Omnibus. He said he supported it then threw us all under the bus.”

The speech was mostly his greatest hits about how popular he is. He even reprised his line about being able to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, indicating that’s how popular he is.
Linky.
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I always assumed that was a one-off remark, but if he is revisiting that bit, do you, maybe think, could he possibly have fantasies of gunning someone down? maybe we should alert the FBI to check into him, to make sure he doesn't go off the rails or something
 
I wonder if anyone here is interested in these facts. Maybe the Dems are in support of the smugglers.
“Sessions is talking to congressional members and is hoping for a legislative fix. The AG wants an immigration policy that is just, fair and enforceable. They talked about making sure that these really are the parents of these kids,” Perkins said.

He continued, “They are looking at how to use DNA tests in the field to verify they are parents and not traffickers. The reality is if American parents put their kids through what these immigrant parents have done to their kids — they would be charged with child abuse.”
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http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/tony-perkins-sessions-dna-tests/
 
logger said:
I have no idea what you’re asking.
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Well, you certainly seem to be discrediting the opinion of people who object to the policy of separating families by pointing out that some of them favor abortion. An intelligent person might question why such a connection is made and might, with some thought, be able to figure out what I was asking.
 
bruto said:
Well, you certainly seem to be discrediting the opinion of people who object to the policy of separating families by pointing out that some of them favor abortion. An intelligent person might question why such a connection is made and might, with some thought, be able to figure out what I was asking.
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An intelligent person would be able to figure it out? Lol got it!
 
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Logger, maybe you can answer this question: Do you really believe that for every single child being detained, there is a reasonable suspicion of human smuggling?
 
I Am The Scum said:
Logger, maybe you can answer this question: Do you really believe that for every single child being detained, there is a reasonable suspicion of human smuggling?
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No, but that isn’t the way law enforcement works. Are you going to be the border patrol agent that lets one get by?
 
logger said:
Well, I’m sure those here complaining certainly agree with you!!!
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Have Trump's children had DNA tests? Have yours? Why not?

2-3% of US children are the product of infidelity. Are you going to tell these parents they are not "real" parents and enforce different custody arrangements? If not (and I hope not) why would you do this to immigrants?
 
logger said:
No, but that isn’t the way law enforcement works. Are you going to be the border patrol agent that lets one get by?
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That is absolutely the way law enforcement works in this country. Cops don't pull over random people because they might be in a stolen car. They don't get to confiscate people's guns because they might be murder weapons.

All I'm saying is that if a government agent is going to place a child in custody, they should have a reasonable suspicion that the child was the victim of or perpetrator of a crime. Feel free to disagree with that one if you want.
 
lionking said:
Have Trump's children had DNA tests? Have yours? Why not?

2-3% of US children are the product of infidelity. Are you going to tell these parents they are not "real" parents and enforce different custody arrangements? If not (and I hope not) why would you do this to immigrants?
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This is to identify smugglers, sheesh, do you even get that? ****!
 
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