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The Trump Presidency VII

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That audio is going to sink the bastard and all his alt-white followers.

Why? It's fake news. Ann Coulter has already been on Fox News saying that the kids have been given scripts and coached in how to act by liberals. Why would that audio be genuine? Laura Ingrahm has said that these detention centres are essentially summer camps.

Anybody who says that the kids aren't enjoying themselves is a snowflake SJW who is buying into the Fake News MSM. Liberalols!
 
I hope so. I can see that audio playing on a lot of political ads this summer and fall. This ploy to get Dems to bow to his legislative agenda needs to fail. Dems have to make it clear that Trump is the terrorist taking children hostage.

I’m sure your side will use this as much as it can. Because this is what the demorats are best at. Dishonest tactics like these to confuse, get people fired up. They have no agenda anyone wants to be part of just fear and chaos is what the demorat party is all about. I can’t wait till you start using these kids to further the left agenda.

This country is on to your sides tactics.
 
Exactly, anyone thinking they can get asylum here deserves to be sent to the gas chambers like we did with the jews before WWII.

Sending those illegal immigrants back to german death camps is a high point in this nations history, and needs to be celebrated.

Open the borders wide open, correct?
 
Hmm? A better question is "Why would you think that he cares about national security in the first place?" His actual actions show, quite clearly, that he doesn't. Rather, his actions show that his priorities are very much elsewhere.

You’re missing lead from behind I’m sure. Lol
 
I’m sure your side will use this as much as it can. Because this is what the demorats are best at. Dishonest tactics like these to confuse, get people fired up. They have no agenda anyone wants to be part of just fear and chaos is what the demorat party is all about. I can’t wait till you start using these kids to further the left agenda.

This country is on to your sides tactics.

The country is against this policy by wide margins. The disapprove numbers are in the high sixties for this policy. Th Speaker of the House came out against it. Where is your data?
 
So do you not think a bunch of young children being separated from their parents wouldn't be a little upset? I mean no, of course why would they cry at all. Makes no sense. :rolleyes:

I don't believe for a second that anyone that is actually peddling such an stupid conspiracy story really believes it. You are lying and so are they.

Your barefaced nastiness in the face of traumatized children and families is really quite disgusting. You should be ashamed. :thumbsup:

Lol

I’m supposed to be ashamed? At our law enforcement for doing an incredibly difficult job? Separating smugglers from children? Adults posing as these kids parents?

The left needs to grow up, put their big person pants on and help us deal with this instead of using it for political gain.
 
I don't believe for a second that anyone that is actually peddling such an stupid conspiracy story really believes it. You are lying and so are they.
Don't forget that at least some of the conspiracy theories are likely the result of foreign posters seeking to sow discord in the U.S.

Your barefaced nastiness in the face of traumatized children and families is really quite disgusting. You should be ashamed. :thumbsup:
I'm not convinced this poster is quite as hard-hearted as he likes to sound. I could be totally wrong though.
 
If you find arguing against the abduction and abuse of innocent children is a "dishonest tactic", it's time for you to seek professional help.
 
Don't forget that at least some of the conspiracy theories are likely the result of foreign posters seeking to sow discord in the U.S.

I'm not convinced this poster is quite as hard-hearted as he likes to sound. I could be totally wrong though.

Foreign posters? Like Ann Coulter? Donald Trump's offspring?

The idiocracy that is still behind this is home grown American ***********. I'm so tired of people wanting to bend over backwards for the diminishing minority that supports his misanthropic actions.

Watch the fireworks over the next couple of days as he doubles down on this. He didn't get what he was doing when he fell for his advisors' recommendation and now that he's done so he's too much of a baby-man to find a way out of it. It's June. His only hope for the GOP in November is mobilizing his miscreant supporters and hoping the other guys' turnout is weak. If he backs down on this, he loses the rabid base. He will continue all through the election season - or he's going to start a war with his new best friend as a distraction. He's got no way out.

I look for a solution from Congress and Trump will ballyhoo it, then sign it and then denounce it to keep faith with the scumbag right. Said agreement will include NO MENTION OF HIS PRECIOUS WALL.
 
I’m sure your side will use this as much as it can. Because this is what the demorats are best at. Dishonest tactics like these to confuse, get people fired up. They have no agenda anyone wants to be part of just fear and chaos is what the demorat party is all about. I can’t wait till you start using these kids to further the left agenda.

This country is on to your sides tactics.

:crazy:
 
Lol

I’m supposed to be ashamed? At our law enforcement for doing an incredibly difficult job? Separating smugglers from children? Adults posing as these kids parents?

The left needs to grow up, put their big person pants on and help us deal with this instead of using it for political gain.

And panzies like Ted Cruz who speak up are RINOs.
 
Foreign posters? Like Ann Coulter? Donald Trump's offspring?
Absolutely there is plenty of homegrown hate but I do believe there may also sock puppets chiming in.

I look for a solution from Congress and Trump will ballyhoo it, then sign it and then denounce it to keep faith with the scumbag right. Said agreement will include NO MENTION OF HIS PRECIOUS WALL.
Several times I've felt congressional Republicans are finally going to suffer for their complicity. Is this the issue? Maybe.

If there's no wall I'm not sure Trump would sign off on this. He's got to keep blaming Democrats, and he probably thinks prolonging this latest crisis will be good for him. There will be enough nasty people to give that impression but in terms of actual poll support, I don't know.
 
Lol

I’m supposed to be ashamed? At our law enforcement for doing an incredibly difficult job? Separating smugglers from children? Adults posing as these kids parents?

The left needs to grow up, put their big person pants on and help us deal with this instead of using it for political gain.

They are not doing what you describe. They are separating everyone regardless of relationship.

The solution is simple, if there isn't probable cause that they are being smuggled by an unrelated adult, keep the family together. It doesn't need a new law because it wasn't needed before.
 
Here’s the first part of it. Go ahead and show me where I’m missing it? Link

Oh, National Review is full of ****. You can't take it seriously. I was referring to the Daily Caller link.

The claim was made the Trump policy is no different than what was done under Obama. I know there is a separate thread about this now, but the claim was made here and I think this is where it needs to be challenged. The National Review cite is actually reporting that the policy is not the same:
The past practice had been to give a free pass to an adult who is part of a family unit. The new Trump policy is to prosecute all adults. The idea is to send a signal that we are serious about our laws and to create a deterrent against re-entry.

Even a defender of the Trump Admin, Jessica Vaughan the director of policy studies for the Center for Immigration Studies, an advocate for less immigration, acknowledges this is new policy.
So the government needs to keep them in custody so that the immigration process can be completed. And their options are limited. They would rather keep families together in a family detention center. And that's what the policy was for a number of years until 2015, when a federal judge in California decided that kids could not be kept in custody and ordered the Obama administration to release the kids. And that has meant often that the parents had to be released also. The Trump administration has taken a different approach - in some cases, is holding the parents, and the kids are placed into HHS custody. Link

Thus, Logger is defending this policy on the grounds Obama did it too. Obama being someone he recently labeled "a POS." At best that's setting the bar pretty low for Trump, and at worst, he doesn't know what past policy was.

Now the other cite is from the Daily Caller, an interview with Henry Cuellar a Texas congressman, who says children caught entering the U.S. illegally were locked up during the Obama Admin but never quite states this included children traveling with parents. That really stands out, that he avoided stating that. He apparently avoided it because it's not true.

This is from Politifact:
"Obama generally refrained from prosecution in cases involving adults who crossed the border with their kids," said Peter Margulies, an immigration law and national security law professor at Roger Williams University School of Law. "In contrast, the current administration has chosen to prosecute adult border-crossers, even when they have kids. That's a choice — one fundamentally different from the choice made by both Obama and previous presidents of both parties."

Denise Gilman, a law professor who directs the immigration clinic at the University of Texas School of Law, said immigration attorneys "occasionally" saw separated families under the Obama administration. "However, these families were usually reunited quite quickly once identified," she said, "even if that meant release of a parent from adult detention." Link


I'd give Logger one Pinocchio for his claims. ;)
 
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