Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VI: Lyndon Johnson's Revenge

[Axxman300]

Agree. This was the most common response on the ground among the DPD officers and the deputy sheriffs. Almost sleepwalking with their collective wetted index finger in the air waiting for wind direction.

Weird, because that dictabelt evidence you forced us to listen to says you're full of it on this allegation alone.

All this changed when a ”fellow cop” got killed and they transformed to a hornets nest very easy to persuade/manipulate in pointing out and catch/kill the guilty villain. It is paramount for every law enforcement to quickly as hell arrest a ”cop killer” in order to restore the ”respect” and thereby security for its officers. Guilty or not guilty is secondary to that. That certainly was the case in Dallas.

We get it, you have a problem with authority and it clearly clouds your judgement.

Everything you just wrote is a pathetic lie. There is no police department in the US that will let a cop-killer go free, especially when the cop is well-liked within the department as Tippit was at DPD. Yes, in some cases the DPD, and other law enforcement agencies would sometime round up the usual suspects, and prosecute some thug for a crime he didn't commit so they could close the file, and move on.

Never in the case of a cop-killer.

Oswald was stupid. He should have held his mud when Tippit stopped him, chances are that after a brief conversation he would have been allowed to continue on his way. Oswald's next mistake was to not wipe the gun and drop it at the scene of the crime (another mistake was not filing the serial number off because that pistol model was a dime a dozen). His following mistake was not buying a ticket at the Texas Theater.

DPD got the right guy.

Looking at Dallas county’s track reckord under legendary DA Henry Wade, this was an artform on a level almost unique for the USA.

No other county in America — and almost no state, for that matter — has freed more innocent people from prison in recent years than Dallas County, where Wade was DA from 1951 through 1986​

And yet the DA was not involved with the investigation due to historical circumstances, and is irrelevant.

A side note. Everyone of the pieces of evidence presented by Henry Wade to the press allegedly pointing to Oswalds guilt, turned out to be false: https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/OI-ALB.html

Oh look, you've linked to a Mark Lane piece. How precious.

All of it. What a dude. He should have lots of kindred spirits in this forum.

Got that right, none of us like cop-killers.​

 

[HSienzant]

The elephant in the livingroom is the absence in the x-rays of a big gaping wound in the right back of the head, reported by almost all of the almost 50 doctors, nurses and police agents who observed the head wounds close up between Elm Street - Parkland - Methodist H. (Harper fragment) - and the Bethesda Naval Hospital.

All these people could not be wrong. It is impossible.

Sounds a lot like the evidence for UFOs or BigFoot or alien visitations.

"All those witnesses can't be wrong".

Hank

 

[Hans]

That’s the thing, Hans, I’m not a member of anything except my citizenship and humanity.

Spitted upon by the Mighty Church.

Actually you are. You are now part of the church above.

So do all the laymen of the sectarian order of the bleeding fruit cake, wireless redemption and multiple invisible shooters all run around avoiding question, shouting claims and never providing evidence?

Is that their 17 commandment: Speakth loud always and provide evidence never?

 

[Hans]

Sounds a lot like the evidence for UFOs or BigFoot or alien visitations. All those witnesses can't be wrong.

Hank

Yep there are 1.8 billion Muslims and their tenets state as a fact - said by god himself - that black magic exists and that invisible Djinn live among us.....

That's a lot of believers and witnesses to, well, nothing.

 

[Axxman300]

Manifesto, check out Pat Speer's website's bit on the x-rays. He lists every person who has examined the original films, only half of them claimed to find any defect resembling an entry wound on the x-rays. Some of the ones who claimed the x-rays do show that contradict themselves, the worst offender of all Michael Baden. I think the "cowlick entry theory" has been more propped up by a the "cowlick red spot" interpretation of the BOH photographs than people realize. And nobody from the autopsy ever agreed with that interpretation.

So for everyone else who is not gullible understands, Pat Speer is 57 years old, but didn't start "researching" the JFK assassination until 2003. Before that he worked in the entertainment industry. His "work" shows up on Spartan Educational Publishers, and he has his own blog where he indulges his mid-life crisis by posting JFK CT stuff.

Questionable source is questionable.

 

[Axxman300]

Honestly, all of the opinions given on the x-rays are unsatisfactory. .

Unsatisfactory only to you because you need a conspiracy.

 

[Axxman300]

There are no evidence of Oswald trying to kill loony Gen. Walker. They tried to pinn that too on him because they knew they had no case on him assassinating JFK.

Well, except for the bullet pulled from the wall matched Oswald's rifle.

Kind of hard to be sneaky if you own a Unicorn, which is the 6.5x52mm Carcano. Had it been any other caliber there's be no way to trace.

Here's the bullet:

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/305152

 

[Axxman300]

You make that sound like it's a bad thing. Screw American capitalism and screw their government for their decadely harassment and murder of poor people for profit.

Said the guy who was posting links to pirated material.

 

[Axxman300]

I know, but if it were true, it wouldn't be that bad. If one of my friends told me they almost killed General Walker, I'd be like "cool".

This right here is the difference between you and everyone on the other side of the fence.

We're not cool with political assassination, or any act of political murder.

Had Walker been killed he'd have become a martyr. Everything he believed would have become the center of a larger political cause.

As it is, if it were not for Lee Oswald nobody would know who he was, so maybe you should thank him for keeping the flames of the extreme far right alive.

 

[bknight]

That’s the thing, Hans, I’m not a member of anything except my citizenship and humanity.

Spitted upon by the Mighty Church.

You are spitting on those here in the forum that don't believe in a conspiracy?

 

[smartcooky]

Yep there are 1.8 billion Muslims and their tenets state as a fact - said by god himself - that black magic exists and that invisible Djinn live among us.....

That's a lot of believers and witnesses to, well, nothing.

Yep... believing things with no evidence is called faith.

CT world more closely matches the description "Church" that does the rationality of the real word.... the Order of the Bleeding Fruit Cake is an apt a term as any to describe the JFK CT nincompoopery

 

[HSienzant]

I am wondering if this exact thing can be experimented with Zombie special effects technology could allow people to perform experiments in which nurses and doctors were tested by treating an actor playing a patient with a prosthetic wound as if the situation were real, or simply walk by and look at the "patient", and then later ask them to describe the head wound. Since Kennedy's head was in the tracheotomy position on the hospital table most of the time, I am wondering if such a wound above the right ear could look more behind the right ear in the moment.

I've got two words for you: Trendelenburg position.

http://www.patspeer.com/reasontobelieve

Hank

 

[Hans]

Yep... believing things with no evidence is called faith.

CT world more closely matches the description "Church" that does the rationality of the real word.... the Order of the Bleeding Fruit Cake is an apt a term as any to describe the JFK CT nincompoopery

Well for mocking the Holy cake and its fruits of knowledge you are added to the sacred list of those to mocked and assailed for having poorly tailored socks and otherwise marginalized.

Yes in the future ever use of the 'Mighty Church' will be matched by amusing tales of Manifesto's misadventures in the order of the Bleeding Fruit Cake.

Next: MicahJava the caffeine Heretic CONFRONTED and not to be allowed further crumbs from the elder and most high fruit cake (with whipped cream)

 

[Steve]

No, it was not. It was and is your membership in the Mighty Church of the Loony Nutters, that made the connection for you.

Just ”slightly above” your unconcious id.

OK then. Have you met Jabba on this forum?

 

[bknight]

I've got two words for you: Trendelenberg position.

http://www.patspeer.com/reasontobelieve

Hank

Small correction Trendelenburg position.

 

[HSienzant]

Small correction Trendelenburg position.

Thanks. Corrected.

Hank

 

[HSienzant]

Screw American capitalism and screw their government for their decadely [sic - decadently?] harassment and murder of poor people for profit.

I've always felt that most of the critics of the Warren Commission must truly hate America to post some of the stuff they post. And that they use the JFK assassination solely as a pretext to bash the USA.

Nobody has come out and confirmed it as strongly as you just did.

Now, question for you to contemplate: Do you think your hatred for America & capitalism as you just expressed above has biased your opinion on the JFK assassination, or do you think despite that hatred, you're unbiased and able to fairly entertain arguments from both sides of the table?

Hank

 

[cmikes]

Once again. Where is evidence for the exit wound for this frontal shot.

Where is the exit for the back wound?

For your supposed frontal knoll headshot. Where is the evidence for an exit wound on the left side of JFK'S head?

Manifesto will never address this because it shows the hopelessness of the CT position. In order to try to absolve Oswald of guilt, they're prepared to introduce three different magic bullets. One that enters JFK's back and disappears without a trace and a second, separate bullet that enters JFK's throat and also disappears without a trace. Plus, given Connally's position in the limo six inches inboard and six inches lower than JFK, the only way for the bullet that caused his wounds to have the trajectory that it took is for the the bullet to have phased though JFK without damaging him on it's way to Connally, adding yet another magic bullet.

Or the damage was caused by Oswald's bullet that entered JFK's upper back, exited his throat and went on to cause Connally's wounds.

Hmm.... which is more likely?

 

[manifesto]

You are spitting on those here in the forum that don't believe in a conspiracy?

No, I’m spitting on those who show only contempt for a vigilant citizenry in a democracy, holding power accountable to the public.

People who’s basic reflexes are to lick up to power and ganging up on dissidents.

Cowards.

 

[bknight]

No, I’m spitting on those who show only contempt for a vigilant citizenry in a democracy, holding power accountable to the public.

People who’s basic reflexes are to lick up to power and ganging up on dissidents.

Cowards.

In other words the rest of us on this thread.