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http://www.econlib.org/library/Mill/mlUQP5.html
This might make a good jumping off point for a new thread. It could in many ways address a few threads that are occuring on both the science page, and here on the philosophy page.
Mill probably spends a little too much time in trying to pin down an accurate definition of political economy. Feel free to skim that, unless you'd like to make this thread about whether the economy is "real" outside its ideological framework. That would be equally interesting to me.
But I thought we could focus on his views of what makes science, and his views of arriving at (and working out of) general principals of science.
Here's some jumping off points:
Personally, I agree with Mill. However I recognize that others might disagree.
Is Mill justifying an "end justifies the means" approach to finding knowledge? In other words, so long as the last principles are products of experiment and analysis, can the first principles reamain a bit epistimologically shaky?
Hence two equally reputable scientists are capable of looking at the same piece of evidence and drawing different conclusions... the way out is detailed by Mill in the paragraphs that follow.
My pulls from Mill should not discourage anyone from reading the whole page, in fact, it will be difficult to have a meaningful discussion about his contributions without reading the whole essay.
Flick
ETA : Mill, not Hume duh... too much reading
This might make a good jumping off point for a new thread. It could in many ways address a few threads that are occuring on both the science page, and here on the philosophy page.
Mill probably spends a little too much time in trying to pin down an accurate definition of political economy. Feel free to skim that, unless you'd like to make this thread about whether the economy is "real" outside its ideological framework. That would be equally interesting to me.
But I thought we could focus on his views of what makes science, and his views of arriving at (and working out of) general principals of science.
Here's some jumping off points:
And, in truth, there is scarcely any investigation in the whole body of a science requiring so high a degree of analysis and abstraction, as the inquiry, what the science itself is; in other words, what are the properties common to all the truths composing it, and distinguishing them from all other truths.
Personally, I agree with Mill. However I recognize that others might disagree.
Why is the admitted certainty of the results of those sciences in no way prejudiced by the want of solidity in their premises? How happens it that a firm superstructure has been erected upon an unstable foundation? The solution of the paradox is, that what are called first principles, are, in truth, last principles.
Is Mill justifying an "end justifies the means" approach to finding knowledge? In other words, so long as the last principles are products of experiment and analysis, can the first principles reamain a bit epistimologically shaky?
Now, in whatever science there are systematic differences of opinion—which is as much as to say, in all the moral or mental sciences, and in Political Economy among the rest; in whatever science there exist, among those who have attended to the subject, what are commonly called differences of principle, as distinguished from differences of matter-of-fact or detail,—the cause will be found to be, a difference in their conceptions of the philosophic method of the science. The parties who differ are guided, either knowingly or unconsciously, by different views concerning the nature of the evidence appropriate to the subject. They differ not solely in what they believe themselves to see, but in the quarter whence they obtained the light by which they think they see it.
Hence two equally reputable scientists are capable of looking at the same piece of evidence and drawing different conclusions... the way out is detailed by Mill in the paragraphs that follow.
My pulls from Mill should not discourage anyone from reading the whole page, in fact, it will be difficult to have a meaningful discussion about his contributions without reading the whole essay.
Flick
ETA : Mill, not Hume duh... too much reading
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