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Reportedly breaking now with the BBC, Scotland Yard has hundred of calls and emails from Devin Nunes to Roger Stone and Trump.
BBC reports intelligence has all of Devin's calls and emails.

Seen it on several reports but not the actual BBC

Seems to be a false alarm. Can't find anything on BBC website for this story.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Reportedly breaking now with the BBC, Scotland Yard has hundred of calls and emails from Devin Nunes to Roger Stone and Trump.
BBC reports intelligence has all of Devin's calls and emails.

Seen it on several reports but not the actual BBC

Seems to be a false alarm. Can't find anything on BBC website for this story.
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That sounfs very unlikely.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Reportedly breaking now with the BBC, Scotland Yard has hundred of calls and emails from Devin Nunes to Roger Stone and Trump.
BBC reports intelligence has all of Devin's calls and emails.

Seen it on several reports but not the actual BBC

Seems to be a false alarm. Can't find anything on BBC website for this story.
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beren said:
That sounfs very unlikely.
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Indeed, I could believe that GCHQ** might have this. Scotland Yard - no. Why would they? How would they? What would the justification* be?

*ETA: though that is probably less of an issue than the technical capability to do that.

**ETA: Althoug why would it be leaked?
 
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jimbob said:
Indeed, I could believe that GCHQ** might have this. Scotland Yard - no. Why would they? How would they? What would the justification* be?

*ETA: though that is probably less of an issue than the technical capability to do that.

**ETA: Althoug why would it be leaked?
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Pretty clear evidence the story's fake, the author was too stupid to know the difference between national and international law agencies in the UK.
 
Scotland Yard isn't even a national law agency. It's the headquarters of the Metropolitan Police Service.

Scotland Yard mostly has the international recognition it does because of Sherlock Holmes. And, perhaps, because the fact that the Metropolitan Police Service covers most of London, meaning it's in the news a disproportionate amount when compared to other police HQs,and that other police HQs don't have catchy names, and so aren't as memorable.

It's kind of like saying that the Washington police department have been bugging British politicians.
 
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Scotland Yard isn't even a national law agency. It's the headquarters of the Metropolitan Police Service.

Scotland Yard mostly has the international recognition it does because of Sherlock Holmes. And, perhaps, because the fact that the Metropolitan Police Service covers most of London, meaning it's in the news a disproportionate amount when compared to other police HQs,and that other police HQs don't have catchy names, and so aren't as memorable.

It's kind of like saying that the Washington police department have been bugging British politicians.
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Not quite, The Met Police Counter Terrorism Command (more or less a department formed several years ago by combining the functions of Special Branch and Anti- and Counter-terrorism Terrorism Squads) has some national responsibilities.

It's possible that the originator of this bit of fake news was thinking about Special Branch whose remit covered foreign agents and extreme political groups. The reference to Scotland Yard does suggest they're a bit behind the times, because the current building is just the Met HQ, and doesn't house operational units.

Fake news, with an ill informed source.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_Yard

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter_Terrorism_Command
 
But they have the little spinny sign outside the building, they must be important!
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Her anecdotes were framed as showing that it's reasonable for her friend to blame the scientists who identified CFCs as a cause of global warming, and the government who implemented a policy of banning it. It was an illustration of how policies that are for the greater good can make things worse for individuals.

The general point is right - just because something has a beneficial effect in aggregate doesn't mean that every single person that it effects will be better off. The particular example was a bad one, however, as it didn't take into account all the factors that caused the price of Emily's friend's medication to go up.
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Nobody ever takes into account all of the factors. And even if they did, the personal cost doesn't necessarily outweigh them.

If a policy is "net beneficial" to the entire species... but requires you to sacrifice the life of your child for "the greater good", do you genuinely think you'd be just fine with that policy, because it's for the greater good?
 
Emily's Cat said:
Nobody ever takes into account all of the factors. And even if they did, the personal cost doesn't necessarily outweigh them.

If a policy is "net beneficial" to the entire species... but requires you to sacrifice the life of your child for "the greater good", do you genuinely think you'd be just fine with that policy, because it's for the greater good?
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He might not be, but any non-RINO Republican should be, as long as it's for the greater good of the shareholders of some privately owned insurance company.

Medicare, Medicaid, VA, maybe not so much.

"Greater good" is a pretty big target space. It depends on who's aiming.
 
So many people get fed **** and they just eat it up. Despite all kinds of evidence to the contrary, including videos of yesterday's lies that are inconsistent with today's and they just keep shifting to the latest Trumper lie.

Mind boggling.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
So many people get fed **** and they just eat it up. Despite all kinds of evidence to the contrary, including videos of yesterday's lies that are inconsistent with today's and they just keep shifting to the latest Trumper lie.

Mind boggling.
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What's so difficult to understand? Trump is a beacon of honor and integrity while Mueller is a corrupt swamp creature.
 
Emily's Cat said:
Nobody ever takes into account all of the factors. And even if they did, the personal cost doesn't necessarily outweigh them.

If a policy is "net beneficial" to the entire species... but requires you to sacrifice the life of your child for "the greater good", do you genuinely think you'd be just fine with that policy, because it's for the greater good?
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Let me put it this way - "the drug companies having a profit motive for raising the prices of a drug" is a pretty big, obvious, and well-evidenced factor not to take into account.
 
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