TruthCalls
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I have no doubt at all mistakes were made. Some police officers might well have behaved inappropriately. However, AFAIAA, the trial was fair. All witnesses were given an ample platform.
Knox' claim of torture just doesn't ring true. In Italy there were two automatic appeals and full written reasons. Under common law (UK/USA) you don't get any of that. If you are allowed an appeal, it is purely discretionary.
Several posts back you made the following claim;
"The vast majority of vacated convictions are to do with technicalities (legal loopholes, lapses in police procedure) not because there is any exonerating evidence, such as someone else's DNA."
I pointed out that there was, in fact, DNA (and prints, and hair) that came from someone other than Ferguson or Erickson. You ignored that and now state you believe the conviction was fair. So, let's review the basic facts.
o There was no physical evidence of Ferguson but there WAS evidence of someone else.
o Six police officers fabricated evidence.
o The prosecution withheld evidence.
o The lone eyewitness who clearly saw two men leaving the crime scene testified Ferguson wasn't one of them.
The janitor who testified against Ferguson, Jerry Trump, originally claimed his wife sent him a newspaper article about the crime with photos of Ferguson and Erickson and that he recognized them. But he later recanted this and claimed DA Crane pressured him. He said the first time he saw the newspaper article was at the prosecutor's office. Trump's wife also stated she did not send her husband the newspaper article.
Shawna Ornt, the janitor who saw two men fleeing the crime scene, testified Ferguson was not one of them. She claimed DA Crane repeatedly tried to get her to implicate Ferguson, even becoming threatening when she refused.
So Vixen, do you think that Zellner "persuaded" both Ornt and Trump to claim DA Crane pressured them to identify Ferguson? Do you think she also "persuaded" Trump's wife to claim she didn't send the newspaper article? What is it that led you to conclude it was Zellner that was being unethical and not DA Crane? Did Zellner also have something to do with the six police officers who were found to have fabricated evidence? Was she also behind the prosecution withholding evidence?
As I said, you don't believe anyone was ever wrongfully convicted.
--- Back to the Kercher murder ---
Yes, I agree, Knox' claim of torture doesn't ring true but only because she never claimed she was tortured. That's your word, not hers. Regardless, what does that have to do with the appeal process in Italy?