Brexit: Now What? Part IV

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jimbob said:
In news that is only a "bombshell" to readers of the Express

BREXIT BOMBSHELL: Britons could be forced to pay €7 for European visa after EU split

Also

BREXIT BOMBSHELL: Brussels demands this key British industry MUST follow EU regulations

Still, I suppose we are taking back control (aka getting different coloured passports, when the colour wasn't mandated by the EU anyway)
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*********** nazi comic. This is only a revelation if, like the readers of the dailymail, one is thick as pig ****.

Stop the world, I wanna get off.
 
jimbob said:
In news that is only a "bombshell" to readers of the Express

BREXIT BOMBSHELL: Britons could be forced to pay €7 for European visa after EU split

Also

BREXIT BOMBSHELL: Brussels demands this key British industry MUST follow EU regulations

Still, I suppose we are taking back control (aka getting different coloured passports, when the colour wasn't mandated by the EU anyway)
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Interesting to see how the EU intend to apply the visa requirement to the Northern Ireland / Republic of Ireland border. I suppose no one has thought it through at all and this is just one more empty threat / scare story.
 
Given that one of the main reasons Brexit had so many rich backers (IMHO) was to leave the EU before they tightened financial controls and reporting, I don't see May supporting EU oversight of UK financial regulations.
 
ceptimus said:
Interesting to see how the EU intend to apply the visa requirement to the Northern Ireland / Republic of Ireland border. I suppose no one has thought it through at all and this is just one more empty threat / scare story.
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Look that is what the people voted for, who are you to try to end the will of the people? If Ireland wants an open border it can leave the EU too.
 
ceptimus said:
Interesting to see how the EU intend to apply the visa requirement to the Northern Ireland / Republic of Ireland border. I suppose no one has thought it through at all and this is just one more empty threat / scare story.
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I agree with you. The EU would apply by default the requirement to all non EU countries. If as everyone keeps saying the UK wants to have no controls over its external land border with the EU it will be because we have agreed to the free movement of people and goods between the UK and EU. No visa would be required. The only downside for us is that we won't be able to strike independent trade deals, we wont be able to limit EU immigration and it will probably cost us more than we pay now. But then again sone may think a hard Irish border, and visa payments might be better.
 
ponderingturtle said:
So a closed boarder but free entrance to the Irish? The US ran into problems giving differential treatment to some EU countries and not others. Not sure it will work.
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I'm certain the Common Travel Area can't be made to work Post Brexit. It is based on the principle that the UK and RoI coordinate their immigration laws and regulations, which means that people are admitted to one country only if they are entitled to enter the other. That was fine before the EU came along. Under the EU it happened under EU arrangements for travel within the Union.

But post Brexit it will simply not be possible for EU member Ireland to coordinate its migration laws with the non EU United Kingdom. How this can be resolved in order to maintain an open border within Ireland I can't begin to imagine.
 
ceptimus said:
Interesting to see how the EU intend to apply the visa requirement to the Northern Ireland / Republic of Ireland border. I suppose no one has thought it through at all and this is just one more empty threat / scare story.
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They're not (yet) part of Schengen, so that new rule doesn't apply there. But if it were, would it really matter - don't all Northern Irish have Irish passports as well by now? :rolleyes:
 
Craig B said:
No. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iri...redominant_passport_held_northern_ireland.png. The difference between the E and W of NI stands out clearly in the map, with the Catholic enclave of W Belfast showing up as a centre of RoI passport holding in a generally U.K. Passport holding area. Voting in the EU referendum followed much the same pattern of predominance.
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My remark was partly meant in jest, but to take it seriously: that map dates back to the 2011 Census. There was a surge in requests for Irish passports post-Brexit-referendum, and even Ian Paisley Jr. called on Northern Irish to do so.
 
3point14 said:
*********** nazi comic. This is only a revelation if, like the readers of the dailymail, one is thick as pig ****.

Stop the world, I wanna get off.
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Indeed.
From Reddit, via a twitter link discussing Brexit

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Rees-Moggies says he will flee the country if there isn't a Brexit.

People are offering to pay for his Coach and Four and cost of his fast Steam Packet.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Rees-Moggies says he will flee the country if there isn't a Brexit.

People are offering to pay for his Coach and Four and cost of his fast Steam Packet.
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Where will he go - inquiring minds want to know.

My guess is France.
 
Craig B said:
I'm certain the Common Travel Area can't be made to work Post Brexit. It is based on the principle that the UK and RoI coordinate their immigration laws and regulations, which means that people are admitted to one country only if they are entitled to enter the other. That was fine before the EU came along. Under the EU it happened under EU arrangements for travel within the Union.

But post Brexit it will simply not be possible for EU member Ireland to coordinate its migration laws with the non EU United Kingdom. How this can be resolved in order to maintain an open border within Ireland I can't begin to imagine.
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Or they could go from a "hard CTA" applying only to British (inc. IoM CIs, etc.) and Irish passport holders.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Rees-Moggies says he will flee the country if there isn't a Brexit.

People are offering to pay for his Coach and Four and cost of his fast Steam Packet.
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Do you think he has twitter typed up as telegrams and delivered to him by local urchins in messenger boy uniforms?
 
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