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Cont: JFK Conspiracy Theories VI: Lyndon Johnson's Revenge
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Quote relevant points and explain. Show me that you understand the content youre are refering to, and no, the conclusions want suffice. Explain.
Yes you do. Look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself why you are calling names.
Tell me how you did respond and if you gave yourself a good answer.
I have read the document a couple of times before this discussion and no, it is not convincing in any way. On the contrary.
You beg to differ? Explain.
bknight
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BBN indicated that if the open mike was not in the correct position then the analysis was incorrect. Therefor to prove/disprove the acoustic study one of the policemen had to be at the position of their analysis. Simply put no one was at even their first array by the time the shooting ended. Conclusion, BBN did the best that they were able in the 70's technology, but with newer techniques no open mike was in position. Just look at the images that have been synchronized as best as can be all 8 of them, no mike in position.
What is your evaluation, please explain in detail why your analysis is correct/more accurate than that concluded in the report?
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
► you run away from hard questions
► you reject the null
► you try to shift the burden of proof
► you post long debunked ideas
► you support your assertions with links/references to CT websites and books
► you reject evidence that doesn't fit your world-view instead of altering your world-view
► you execute fringe resets when your theories get hammered
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, then its a duck. You come across like a CT, you hold the opinions of a CT and you act like a CT, ergo, you are a CT....
No, he branded all suspions of political/economical crimes against democracy, pathological, no matter how well founded they are.
It is every citicens duty to carefully observe the doings of members of their public servants and other powerful people and groupings.
That necessary democratic function are defunct in USA ever since the assassination of president Kennedy. Hofstadters little essay have a part in this.
That goes for you to.
Name ONE.
Name the ”null” and how I reject it.
How?
Name ONE.
Why is this a bad thing?
Name ONE.
Example?
Why are you calling names, smartcocky?
Does it feel good inside when you are calling names?
Tell me.
The relevant points are summarized in the 7 minute video I provided.
Multiple contemporaneous videos with multiple synchronization points cover the Plaza during the shooting. They show that McLain wasn't where he needed to be when the shooting happened in order for the dictabelt to have any relevance.
The paper from Myers covers each of the videos, where the points of synchronization are, and where McLain's position is during the shooting according to the visual evidence.
No you haven't.
Agree.
And my question is, how do you know this? From Myers?
Explain.
No. Explain how you know that the values of the data Myers uses are correct. He builds his ”science” on faulty asumtions not accounted for in his presentation.
- The exact position of Hughes camera is not known.
- Myers analyzes from a faulty timeline contrived by HSCA’s Robert Blakey as a ”political compromise”.
- Myers analyzes the speed of the motorcade and its different vehicles as carts in a train with static gaps in between them, when the correct model is like an accordion, pressed together at the end of Houston and the vehicles speeding to catch up in the other end.
- He identifies the MC-police in the Dorman film as McLain without evidence.
So, no, Myers doesn’t show how McLain was NOT at the critical spots at the critical times for being the bike with the stuck mike.
It’s another example, in a long row of examples of junk science trying to debunk the acoustical evidence. So far no one have succeded, instead they have corroborated it and made it even stronger.
Read above and ask specific questions if you have any.
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Yes I have. I have also debated the content very successfully on other internet forums.
So, describe why you are convinced that the document proves that McLain couldn’t have been on the right spots in the right time for picking up the five detected echo-patterns on the DPD dictabelt recording.
It summerizes conclusions, not how these were made.
How do you know they are in sync? Have you looked at the data?
Repeting Myers conclusion doesn’t make it more true. How do you know that his conclusion is founded on correct data?
Good. Quote from the paper and show me that you understand what it says and how it was produced. Data. Method. Asumtions. Etc.
McLain is at mic position 1 in the Dorman film after the shooting has already concluded.
bknight
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From the synchronization of course, whether or not you accept the science, identifying relevant images across all the videos so that are in synch.
Why are the assumptions faulty? He has taken two dimensional images and matched them, creating a three dimensional representation. Myers explained how the films were digitized and speed corrected in the corresponding images. Didn't you read the document or view the video?
Line of sight from the Hughes video itself, pretty simple. Don't you know anything about trigonometry?
No Myers timeline is independent from any work that preceded it, didn't you read the document?
Have you ever been in a motorcade? This is a very immature question. Of course the vehicles move in accordion fashion because each driver can't match the speed of the vehicle in front of it.
No, everyone identified McLain as the open mike person. But this is a red herring, it makes no difference at the end of the conclusion, no one was at the last position by the time the shooting stopped.
Incorrect Myers showed in the video, had you watched it, that no one was at the first array position that BBN set up
Junk science because it shows faults in your pretty conspiracy? Explain why do you think it is junk science?
No one including McLain was at last position one by the time shooting stopped, therefore the analysis of the number/direction of shots is invalidated, by the scientist/technicians own statements.
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How do you know it is McLain in the Dorman film?
RoboTimbo
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"LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" said every CT ever.
Maybe if you tried to be honest for a change?
RoboTimbo
Hostile Nanobacon
What is your comprehensive hypothesis for how the assassination happened? Remember that it must account for every piece of evidence with no anomalies using the same standard of proof you are demanding of the null hypothesis.
...answered no CT ever.
RoboTimbo
Hostile Nanobacon
What are your thoughts on the National Academy of Science's debunking of the dictabelt recording? You HAVE read it, haven't you?
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