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JoeMorgue said:
So is Tom Selleck, R. Lee Emery, Oliver North and Karl Malone and we're not hearing their opinions.
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Totally off topic but I discovered Sellecks True Blue show a while ago

It drips moral outrage and religious messages every episode, but is strangely addictive to watch.

Bit like Judging Amy
 
smartcooky said:
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The hits just keep coming.

Another five advertisers have pulled their adverts from Laura Ingraham's show on Fox News, making a total of 13 major sponsors pulling the plug. The latest five are;

Atlantis
Liberty Mutual
Ruby Tuesday
Jenny Craig
Office Depot
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Two more advertisers have now baled

Bayer
Miracle Ear

Brings the total to 15
 
Civet said:
Poor thing. Since the Russian twitter bot army is allegedly coming out to support her maybe the Russians could just put together some sort of front company to buy advertising time to get her through the rough patch?
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As things seem to be going they already have Faux News doing everything they could wish for, and they don't have to pay anything at all.
 
I'm not saying this is not true, as odd things happen, but I find it slightly difficult to believe the Russians care about a mass shooting in the US
 
cullennz said:
I'm not saying this is not true, as odd things happen, but I find it slightly difficult to believe the Russians care about a mass shooting in the US
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It's a form of blackops - the more the USA becomes fractured the harder it is to unite behind any thing.

ETA: IF the Russians are doing so.
 
Darat said:
It's a form of blackops - the more the USA becomes fractured the harder it is to unite behind any thing.

ETA: IF the Russians are doing so.
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Up to now the various sides have just been shouting at each other. Now they are mobilising into more direct action.

Rather than solve the problem, I predict the increased animosity and actions of each side will result in nothing of note being achieved.
 
Nessie said:
Up to now the various sides have just been shouting at each other. Now they are mobilising into more direct action.

Rather than solve the problem, I predict the increased animosity and actions of each side will result in nothing of note being achieved.
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I'm not completely pessimistic but I don't think action will happen at the Federal Level yet. A really ugly 2018 election cycle for Republicans might allow some national legislation, but states, particularly those with the initiative process may make some headway. Oregon has a strong assault weapon ban law coming up for vote, as do other states I imagine.
 
smartcooky said:
Two more advertisers have now baled

Bayer
Miracle Ear

Brings the total to 15
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Has the accusation been floated yet that those advertisers were bullied into their boycott by the Evil Left? Because that feels like the next logical step.

But then again, I'm looking for logic from rightwing crackpot conspiracy theorists.
 
Nessie said:
But the act of avoiding someone who is obnoxious, is not bullying.
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Avoiding somebody because they are obnoxious is not bullying. My belief that he was bullied is not informed by people who might have said his peers avoided him because he was obnoxious. It’s informed by the people who have said he was bullied.
 
johnny karate said:
Has the accusation been floated yet that those advertisers were bullied into their boycott by the Evil Left? Because that feels like the next logical step.
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Right-wing nutcase Bill O'Reilly (himself a Fox News hack) has claimed that the companies which had withdrawn advertisements from Ingraham's show were 'being directed by powerful, shadowy radical groups who want her off the air.' He also insisted that similar groups were behind his exit from Fox last year. (Of course, the mass withdrawal of advertisers from his programme followed by his exit, couldn't have been anything to do with the multiple women who accused him of sexual harassment). :rolleyes:

johnny karate said:
But then again, I'm looking for logic from rightwing crackpot conspiracy theorists.
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Right-wing conspiracy retards like O'Reilly see gun-snatching left-wingboogeymen behind every tree, bush and shrub in 'Merica
 
CaptainHowdy said:
Avoiding somebody because they are obnoxious is not bullying.
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Correct.

Now let’s take a look at Emma Gonzalez’s statement:
So many signs that the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed, even expelled for bad and erratic behavior. Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities again and again. We did, time and time again. Since he was in middle school, it was no surprise to anyone who knew him to hear that he was the shooter. Those talking about how we should have not ostracized him, you didn’t know this kid. OK, we did. We know that they are claiming mental health issues, and I am not a psychologist, but we need to pay attention to the fact that this was not just a mental health issue. He would not have harmed that many students with a knife.
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And now let’s take a look at your claim regarding her statement:
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Now that Emma has admitted to bullying Cruz since they were in middle school, her credibility as an anti-gun anti-violence advocate is shot. Not only is she not a victim of a school shooting, she is one of the people who actually provoked it!
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And just to review:
CaptainHowdy said:
Avoiding somebody because they are obnoxious is not bullying.
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Do you stand by your claim that Emma Gonzalez admitted to bullying Cruz?
 
johnny karate said:
Has the accusation been floated yet that those advertisers were bullied into their boycott by the Evil Left? Because that feels like the next logical step.

But then again, I'm looking for logic from rightwing crackpot conspiracy theorists.
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No, but it’s been suggested that advertisers didn’t pull out because they were threatened with a boycott but because they wanted to do the right thing. They were going to pull their advertising anyway because Laura is a vile person who attacked a “survivor” of a school shooting. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=12239106#post12239106
 
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CaptainHowdy said:
Avoiding somebody because they are obnoxious is not bullying. My belief that he was bullied is not informed by people who might have said his peers avoided him because he was obnoxious. It’s informed by the people who have said he was bullied.
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Bullied how?

Just because someone said it was bullying, does therefore evidence, let alone prove bullying.
 
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