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Stormy Daniels Sues the President

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acbytesla said:
Also, I just watched a legal analyst for CNN, said that Avenatti's latest move suing Cohen for defamation saying she was lying about the affair frees Daniels up to talk about the affair since it is outside the scope of the NDA.
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Oy vey, there is no way that is correct, you sure you heard correctly?
 
The Big Dog said:
Ah, I think I get what she was saying, but man those *********** talking head shows.... the host started talking over whatever her conclusion was.
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Quite interesting. Avenatti says that by removing the case to Federal Court, his client is entitled to expedited discovery and is able to depose the President. Also, since Cohen said Daniels was lying, it now becomes a defamation case and they want damages. Interesting.

Accusing someone of lying is defamatory and that would be outside the scope of the NDA.
 
acbytesla said:
'Spank me please Stormy'
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Oh gee whiz!

I can just imagine Trump saying something like to her in a text message/e-mail and then having that message splashed across the world wide news media as part of the discovery process for lawsuit on this issue.
 
acbytesla said:
Quite interesting. Avenatti says that by removing the case to Federal Court, his client is entitled to expedited discovery and is able to depose the President. Also, since Cohen said Daniels was lying, it now becomes a defamation case and they want damages. Interesting.

Accusing someone of lying is defamatory and that would be outside the scope of the NDA.
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Avenatti is totally full of ****. The next step is a motion to compel arbitration. Slapping a frivolous defamation suit against the other sides lawyer to get around a NDA is despicable.

This mope and his porn star are playing people for fools. get angry
 
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The Big Dog said:
Avenatti is totally full of ****. The next step is a motion to compel arbitration. Slapping a frivolous defamation suit against the other sides lawyer to get around a NDA is despicable.

This mutt and his porn star are playing people for fools. get angry
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So you say. But I'm not a lawyer Big Dog and neither are you. I'm not going to pretend I know how the Court will deal with Avenatti's arguments.
 
Crossbow said:
Oh gee whiz!

I can just imagine Trump saying something like to her in a text message/e-mail and then having that message splashed across the world wide news media as part of the discovery process for lawsuit on this issue.
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Would be funny if a bunch of dirty texts of Donald's got plastered all over the headlines.
 
acbytesla said:
So you say. But I'm not a lawyer Big Dog and neither are you. I'm not going to pretend I know how the Court will deal with Avenatti's arguments.
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The thread lawyers should know I am correct, let’s see if they dip their toe in to address the latest developments.
 
acbytesla said:
It's not like Turley is a liberal. He's argued much more on Trump's behalf.
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Reverse ad hominem. :D

All I care about is furious application of the law. I get that stormy’s lawyer is making all sorts of folks buckle at the knees, but let’s not kid ourselves he is about to be run the **** over by the good ship uss arbitration.

He is doing a phenomenal job pounding the table but the law and the facts are against him.
 
The Big Dog said:
Reverse ad hominem. :D

All I care about is furious application of the law. I get that stormy’s lawyer is making all sorts of folks buckle at the knees, but let’s not kid ourselves he is about to be run the **** over by the good ship uss arbitration.

He is doing a phenomenal job pounding the table but the law and the facts are against him.
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Wrong. You think that "arbitration" will somehow hide the POTUS's indiscretions. That is why you are so gung-ho for it. You want to hide those at all cost.

For some reason, you think that the scumbaggery deserves to be concealed. You are free to so think, but one must wonder as to motive.

It really is no different than the RCC cover up of the rampant child abuse, or the mormon weirdness, or seventh day adventists or southern baptists. They are all the same.
 
Does anybody believe Trump didn't have an affair with Stormy Daniels? Of course he did. Are her attempts to invalidate the NDA likely to fail? I'd say "yes"; the legal argument seems pretty thin. The problem with trying this in the court of public opinion is that we get it already: Trump cheated on his wife. With a porn star. And didn't use a rubber. Daniels and her lawyer need to go away now. The story is the cover-up. The potential violation of campaign finance laws.
 
The Big Dog said:
Reverse ad hominem. :D

All I care about is furious application of the law. I get that stormy’s lawyer is making all sorts of folks buckle at the knees, but let’s not kid ourselves he is about to be run the **** over by the good ship uss arbitration.

He is doing a phenomenal job pounding the table but the law and the facts are against him.
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We'll see about that, but you've really lost the plot: It's pretty clear that pursuing arbitration in the first place was a bone-headed decision for Trump, no doubt driven by his narcissistic need to "fight back" rather than sound legal advice and common sense. When the NDA didn't work to keep Daniels quiet, he could have simply disavowed it and denied the whole thing. Even if Daniels could prove the affair happened, so what? It wouldn't matter to the people who wouldn't believe her or to the people who didn't really believe Trump in the first place, but didn't care. And even if he and Cohen get through this now without perjury and/or campaign finance charges, and even if he does succeed in forcing this to arbitration, there's no way he's going to collect enough money from Daniels to compensate for the damage he's doing to himself. Even if he got the full $20M award and someone else paid it, what's that to a billionaire? As for Cohen, he deserves whatever he gets -- I dare say Trump might be better off if he fired Cohen and hired you.
 
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