Stormy Daniels Sues the President

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Adultery. It is illegal in New York.

I know it is weak, but as usual the cover-up is worse than the crime.

Yes and adultery is legally rape in Michigan, these laws would be rapidly overturned if prosecutors ever charged anyone with them. It is like the laws against homosexual sex still on the books.
 
It is pretty irrelevant were the money came from: it was definitely used in an effort to affect the election by keeping an affair quiet just before the election. If this had been done right after the affair (years ago), this would have been a non-issue. But unless the entire Trump campaign staff was unaware of this transaction, it would have needed to be reported.
So unless Cohen didn't consult with Trump at all about this (which, given that there is a line for "DD" to sign seems highly improbable), keeping Stormy Daniels quiet is a campaign contribution of 130K, an amount that had to be reported.

Thanks so much for the clarification. I see your point.

Indeed, Trump could be in some serious trouble with the Stormy payment.
 
Incorrect. We have not had Trump confirm or Deny he is DD.
We do have a statement from the white house that "Trump won the arbitration", suggesting that yes, indeed he is the DD.

If the NDA is invalid, she would likely return the money. I believe her attorney said that's not a problem.
Its probably not a problem, as she may earn a lot more from media interviews, book sales, etc.

But, as one analysis suggested, it may depend on the judge. Since some of the aspects of the case are so murky, the judge may determine rule that the money can be considered a "gift".

If the NDA is valid, then she probably needs to STFU or gets hit with the million dollar per incident fine.
I don't believe she would be fined. Fines involve punishment for breaking criminal law; this case is more about civil/contract law. She might be sued for violating a valid agreement, but that would likely require Trump to show up in court and/or disclose things he would consider embarrassing.

If so, many people have made the argument that they don't believe it will matter much. I tend to agree, people have accepted that trump is a sleazy adulterer. This admission likely won't change any minds.
Once again... while most Trump supporters won't be swayed, it may cause a few to become disillusioned. Death by a thousand paper cuts.

And even if it doesn't change his level of support, the fact that it is bothering Trump provides some satisfaction. Trump is bad... he is a racist/bigot, and his policies have harmed (or will harm) millions of people. If we can't stop him we can at least get some enjoyment out of seeing him suffer too. Like the film of Hitler getting hit in the groin with a football.

Of course, this is assuming that Trump doesn't suffer long term legal problems (such as being found guilty of fraud) over the issue.
 
Yes and adultery is legally rape in Michigan, these laws would be rapidly overturned if prosecutors ever charged anyone with them. It is like the laws against homosexual sex still on the books.

That is irrelevant in this case, unless Trump can get the Supreme Court to overturn them before he paid hush money to cover up the crime.
he would have to allow the Judges to use the Pentagon's time machine.

As mentioned: even if he would never get convicted for the underlying crime, he can certainly be charged for the cover-up.
 
We do have a statement from the white house that "Trump won the arbitration", suggesting that yes, indeed he is the DD.

Well, we also have statements that the President denies any sexual relations with Daniels.

I don't believe she would be fined. Fines involve punishment for breaking criminal law; this case is more about civil/contract law. She might be sued for violating a valid agreement, but that would likely require Trump to show up in court and/or disclose things he would consider embarrassing.

Yes, I was being innacurate. She will be subject to the penalty as defined in the agreement. IANAL, but I don't guess that it would require more then Cohen to go in front of an arbitrator and show evidence the agreement was broken.

I guess that's one of the major issues - does Cohen have standing, by himself, to do all this without requiring DD/trump.

I guess that's what the Judge will tell us, and the dominoes will fall from there.
 
This is going to put Republicans in the position of opposing laws against campaign financing and election influencing, all to help an old idiot cover up a tawdry extra-marital affair. This is way more serious than your run-of-the-mill sex scandal.
 
I guess that's one of the major issues - does Cohen have standing, by himself, to do all this without requiring DD/trump.

Cohen will very likely be disbarred by the end of this. He'll be lucky if that's all that happens to him.
 
That is irrelevant in this case, unless Trump can get the Supreme Court to overturn them before he paid hush money to cover up the crime.
he would have to allow the Judges to use the Pentagon's time machine.

As mentioned: even if he would never get convicted for the underlying crime, he can certainly be charged for the cover-up.

And that is the case even if covering up a legal but embarrassing act.
 
And that is the case even if covering up a legal but embarrassing act.

not quite: if Cohen set up the LLC as the means to transfer hush money in the coverup, that makes the LLC an illegal enterprise which makes Cohen liable and makes it really easy for investigators to make Delaware release all the data they have on other LLCs set up by Cohen. This could snowball into so much **** it will make the current Mueller probe look tiny.
 
not quite: if Cohen set up the LLC as the means to transfer hush money in the coverup, that makes the LLC an illegal enterprise which makes Cohen liable and makes it really easy for investigators to make Delaware release all the data they have on other LLCs set up by Cohen. This could snowball into so much **** it will make the current Mueller probe look tiny.

Sure the illegal campaign contribution.
 
why are people distorting New York law to assert that Trump did something illegal?

Trump was married in Florida.
The plaintiff alleges that she is a citizen of Texas who resides in California
The complaint was filed in California and alleges that Trump laid the pipe in California and Nevada.
The settlement agreement is between her and a Delaware LLC.
the settlement agreement requires venue in Arizona, Cali or Nevada and states that those states law apply.

Anyone claiming New York adultery law should apply is patently absurd.
 
Cohen will very likely be disbarred by the end of this. He'll be lucky if that's all that happens to him.
If so, I'm sure he can make a comfortable living milking the treasure trove of Trump dirty secrets.
Not sure, but since he would have been acting as Trump's lawyer (acting under lawyer-client privilege), if he reveals secrets he might end up getting sued (even if he was already disbarred).

But then, I'm not a lawyer.
 
why are people distorting New York law to assert that Trump did something illegal?

Trump was married in Florida.
The plaintiff alleges that she is a citizen of Texas who resides in California
The complaint was filed in California and alleges that Trump laid the pipe in California and Nevada.
The settlement agreement is between her and a Delaware LLC.
the settlement agreement requires venue in Arizona, Cali or Nevada and states that those states law apply.

Anyone claiming New York adultery law should apply is patently absurd.

In cases involving family law and related matters, which courts should have jurisdiction over married couples residing in New York?
 
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In cases involving family law and related matters, which courts should have jurisdiction over married couples residing in New York?

Under the principles of comity, New York should apply Florida law to Florida citizens married in Florida but residing in New York.
 
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