Stormy Daniels Sues the President

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Meadmaker said:
So, the whole point of the suit is to get a judgement on whether or not the NDA is binding? That's fascinating, because of course the very act of filing the suit makes a non-disclosure agreement irrelevant for all practical purposes. She just disclosed everything she promised not to disclose.
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No, not everything.

We have a saying on the internets, "Pix or it didn't happen."

https://twitter.com/Lawrence/status/971886589331750912?s=19
 
TheL8Elvis said:
And that applies here ... how exactly ?
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While it is not impossible that the sex between Trump and Daniels was motivated by pure animal passion on her part, it seems fairly unlikely.

When she has fully disclosed the circumstances of their... relationship, it is likely to be revealed that she was compensated by Trump for sexual services before being paid to shut up about it.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
If the settlement is valid, Trump will have illegally used campaign funds to pay hush money to cover up a crime. Cohen will have set up an illegal LLC.
It is in the best interest of Trump to deny that he is DD and thereby invalidate the settlement.
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Excuse me, but are you sure that is right?

After all, it is quite legal for one person to give another person money provided that the money in question was obtained legally and that the money in question is not being used for some illegal purpose.

Also, has it been shown that the money provided to Stormy Daniels did come from the Trump Campaign? As far as I know, the money came from Cohen as opposed to the Trump Campaign.

As far as I can tell, while the Stormy Affair is in poor taste and its airing will cause personal problems for Trump and/or the Trump family, but it is hardly illegal for Trump to have a mistress and to pay that mistress for not blabbing about the relationship that they had back in 2006.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Basing a ruling on an unconstitutional law is not likely to be taken seriously.
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I would absolutely love to see Cohen or Trump stand up for the constitituonal right to violate one's marital vows. Bring that **** on, I say.

ETA: Has some other plaintiff already done this?
 
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Crossbow said:
As far as I can tell, while the Stormy Affair is in poor taste and its airing will cause personal problems for Trump and/or the Trump family, but it is hardly illegal for Trump to have a mistress and to pay that mistress for not blabbing about the relationship that they had back in 2006.
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Except Trump's goon lawyer claims that he, the lawyer, paid off Stormy, not Trump. According to some legal analysts, that constitutes an unreported campaign contribution, hence illegal.
 
Cavemonster said:
While it is not impossible that the sex between Trump and Daniels was motivated by pure animal passion on her part, it seems fairly unlikely.

When she has fully disclosed the circumstances of their... relationship, it is likely to be revealed that she was compensated by Trump for sexual services before being paid to shut up about it.
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While I agree with the first part, I have doubts that whether this was technically prostitution or not will be relevant in any way. I could be wrong.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Nope.
NDA are about company secrets being kept out of the hands of competitors.
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That is just one of the ways NDAs are used, NDAs are not limited to that.

The Great Zaganza said:
In your examples, keeping the photos quiet until publication is part of the business of the media company. Similarly, Trump making the crew of The Apprentice sign NDAs to keep quite about who will get fired when is part of the business of the show.
Not wanting others to know that you got laid by a Porn Star is not part of your business unless you are in the Porn business - and Trump got out of that a long time ago.
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Which is why a few of us have been mentioning that what was agreed was not really a NDA, it was a contract and as long as the contract is legal then it can bind the parties in anyway they have decided and signed.
 
varwoche said:
Except Trump's goon lawyer claims that he, the lawyer, paid off Stormy, not Trump. According to some legal analysts, that constitutes an unreported campaign contribution, hence illegal.
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That is a good point and you could be exactly right about the payment being an unreported campaign contribution. However, there is still some debate on the issue and as such the issue has not been settled.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Adultery. It is illegal in New York.

I know it is weak, but as usual the cover-up is worse than the crime.
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Holy cow!

Adultery is actually illegal in New York?

Gee whiz, then Trump must be in some serious trouble indeed because he had sex with quite a few different women over the years while he married and while he was in-between wives.
 
Crossbow said:
Excuse me, but are you sure that is right?

After all, it is quite legal for one person to give another person money provided that the money in question was obtained legally and that the money in question is not being used for some illegal purpose.

Also, has it been shown that the money provided to Stormy Daniels did come from the Trump Campaign? As far as I know, the money came from Cohen as opposed to the Trump Campaign.

As far as I can tell, while the Stormy Affair is in poor taste and its airing will cause personal problems for Trump and/or the Trump family, but it is hardly illegal for Trump to have a mistress and to pay that mistress for not blabbing about the relationship that they had back in 2006.
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It is pretty irrelevant were the money came from: it was definitely used in an effort to affect the election by keeping an affair quiet just before the election. If this had been done right after the affair (years ago), this would have been a non-issue. But unless the entire Trump campaign staff was unaware of this transaction, it would have needed to be reported.
So unless Cohen didn't consult with Trump at all about this (which, given that there is a line for "DD" to sign seems highly improbable), keeping Stormy Daniels quiet is a campaign contribution of 130K, an amount that had to be reported.
 
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Crossbow said:
Also, has it been shown that the money provided to Stormy Daniels did come from the Trump Campaign? As far as I know, the money came from Cohen as opposed to the Trump Campaign.
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...who was reportedly griping to colleagues that Trump hadn't yet reimbursed him in November '16. Given Trump's known propensity never to pay for anything himself and at least one suspiciously large payment of just over $130k from the Trump Campaign to Trump in late November '16, I'd say someone really ought to be looking hard at the numbers.

Which they're going to be doing anyway, because the Russians, this is just one more certainly unethical and potentially criminal act folding into all the others. Guess we'll find out which in the indictment.
 
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