The Trump Presidency (Act V - The One Where Everybody Dies)

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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Trump claims to have reduced the cost of moving the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem from $1b to $250,000
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I heard that Sheldon Adelson had offered to pay for it. They should take him up on it.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/23/sheldon-adelson-pay-jerusalem-embassy-422732

Of course, I can't take anything Trump says seriously anymore. I might accidentally say "thousand" when I meant to say "million"; that could happen to anyone. But Trump just pulls figures out of his nether regions. The embassy will eventually cost something close to a billion dollars (that's how much the new embassy in London cost) regardless of who pays for it. I doubt Adelson will pay the full cost.
 
Civet said:
Since banging a porn star cannot damage his reputation in any possible way he was a damn fool to pay her in the first place. Same as with the Russian hooker allegations (if there's any truth to them). As long as he's not gay or a pedophile his worshipers couldn't care less. Complete waste of money.
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I don't think the campaign team was sure about that a couple weeks before the election.

After that, who knows how Melania being pissed off mattered. He can't exactly get any outside of marriage while he's under the spotlight.

I suspect now that the cat's out of the bag, there's much less concern.
 
Civet said:
Since banging a porn star cannot damage his reputation in any possible way he was a damn fool to pay her in the first place. Same as with the Russian hooker allegations (if there's any truth to them). As long as he's not gay or a pedophile his worshipers couldn't care less. Complete waste of money.
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No sign that the bolded part would matter to his voters, either. Good for the orange guy who walks into teenagers' dressing room and ogles ten-year-olds, I guess.
 
newyorkguy said:
Porn star Stormy Daniels is now suing The Dunce to overturn the non-disclosure agreement she signed in exchange for $130,000 in cash.


I think the reaction from Republicans to the latest sordid incident from the garbage they helped elect president will be, "So what? He was boinking a porn star and he paid her to shut her up. Okay, and...?" Really sad to see what the GOP is becoming. And even sadder to contemplate, in the long run the real loser is the United States. :(
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With the photo they used, the Washington Times certainly raised the level of discourse on the topic. :rolleyes:
 
SezMe said:
With the photo they used, the Washington Times certainly raised the level of discourse on the topic. :rolleyes:
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The Washington Times isn't exactly a high level of discourse to begin with. It's barely a step above the New York Post.
 
Strawberry said:
As a British ex pat in Australia you really are no better than Trump's supporters.
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what? care to explain that, as far as I can see one thing has nothing to do with the other.
Sneering from the sidelines is no substitute for constructive action.
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If you want to imagine that as a Sneer then that's up to you. I make the point about not wanting to live in the USA because of the healthcare system for a couple of reasons. The first is to emphasis the importance of having a healthcare system where every citizen is entitled to a common level of care that is not means tested and provided to a level their government can afford. I think a system where only the relatively well off can afford decent health care is immoral at its core. And secondly, I think many Americans are quite Insular and have a misplaced impression that their way of living is the norm and that all other cultures aspire to it (at least I find it to be the case often - but this is by no means a scientifically proven fact of course). That is probably not true for most people posting on this site. Gun control and healthcare are two areas where some perspective would do them some good IMHO
 
I've not been bothering with Stormy Daniels-related things because, beyond demonstrating that Trump is open to blackmail to do with his sex life (which is relevant to Steele dossier allegations), I don't think there's much that's interesting, relevant or funny there. However, in the wake of reports that Cohen has admitted that the money came directly from Trump, Daniels has filed a new lawsuit alleging that the non-disclosure agreement is invalid because Trump didn't actually sign it. Other than the fact that the suit is the first official document to allege that Trump is a party to the contract, rather than it being conducted without his knowledge, I like the fact that the terrific deal-maker (just the best) seems to have forgotten or otherwise neglected to do the most important thing when it comes to finalising a contract - signing it.
 
SezMe said:
With the photo they used, the Washington Times certainly raised the level of discourse on the topic. :rolleyes:
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There were a number of sources reporting the story but I chose the Washington Times because it is known to lean right wing. In fact, the reactionaries posting here have quoted stories in it from time to time. (Usually citing 'facts' not reported anywhere else.)

This is from a 2009 New York Times story:
With its conservative editorial bent, the paper also became a crucial training ground for many rising conservative journalists and a must-read for those in the movement. A veritable who’s who of conservatives — Tony Blankley, Frank J. Gaffney Jr., Larry Kudlow, John Podhoretz and Tony Snow — has churned out copy for its pages. Link
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The Stormy Daniels suit is a publicity stunt, a sign that she is open for business for book deals and lucrative interviews. It's a countermeasure for a possible breach of confidentiality agreement lawsuit that would do Trump no good in any case.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
The Stormy Daniels suit is a publicity stunt, a sign that she is open for business for book deals and lucrative interviews. It's a countermeasure for a possible breach of confidentiality agreement lawsuit that would do Trump no good in any case.
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Oh, of course. Many aspects of Trump's world is a publicity stunt.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
New ACA wording allows discrimination against those with preexisting conditions, will make insurance cost more for the over-50s, and will prevent abortions from being paid for with insurance
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Sort of. The twitter links to Slavitt's article here with more information. The proposed language would allow people to buy short-term (less than one year) limited health insurance policies that would include strict limits to coverage. This creates problems but it doesn't mean that other, longer-term insurance policies would be able to impose similar limits.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
New ACA wording allows discrimination against those with preexisting conditions, will make insurance cost more for the over-50s, and will prevent abortions from being paid for with insurance
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Making insurance more expensive for those over 50 would seem to have a more detrimental effect on Republican voters (which are a little older than Democratic supporters.) Strange that they didn't wait until later to bring about the change (so that it wouldn't harm them in the mid-term elections.)
 
Segnosaur said:
Making insurance more expensive for those over 50 would seem to have a more detrimental effect on Republican voters (which are a little older than Democratic supporters.) Strange that they didn't wait until later to bring about the change (so that it wouldn't harm them in the mid-term elections.)
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I think this is stuff the White House is asking for, not stuff that Congress has agreed to. I expect they won't do it (the age part, other stuff they might) and if they do they'll put in some sort of delaying mechanism so it'll hit later and maybe phrase it in language that will facilitate lying about its impact.
 
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