The Trump Presidency (Act V - The One Where Everybody Dies)

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Darat said:
And it's a "but what does he mean?" - there is zero chance that he has any kind of understanding of the issues and problems involved never mind how they can be tackled by the government.

One thing that has struck me as very ironic, Obama was meant to be to - any moment now, he's just waiting for an excuse - going to unconstitutionally grab your guns, yet it is Trump that has gone on record saying he wants to unconstitutionally confiscate your guns and damn due process yet there isn't any signs (yet?) of a huge uproar about this gun grab.
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Surely you aren't suggesting that conservatives treat Trump differently than they did Obama?

:rolleyes:

Yeah. Just imagine the explosion in the Conservasphere™ if Obama had ever said outright that due process should be ignored and the government ought to go in and take someone's guns whenever they felt like it, based on some guess at possible future behavior.

They'd be screaming "Impeachment" to the skies within a matter of minutes. GOP Congresscritters would be foaming at the mouth.

And yet, when Trump does exactly that the only peeps heard are some vague blusters that Trump Administration flunkies are going to be preparing some "clarifications".
 
Mental Meanderings - It's a Generic Thread, After All

I don't think Donnie Johnny is quite grokking who he's dealing with. As rubes in his casinos or brain-dead viewers of his horrible television show, he's used to being able to posture just so long as he gets the camera angles right and pulls of the right poses. He got away with it during the GE, too. He changed horses in mid-stream so often that he started to sprout gills.

But "mah gunz" is not an area he wants to traipse through. A lot of those folks are of the alt-right ilk and they barely tolerate him because he hates beaners and camel jockeys and ******** as much as they do, but he does have (((Javanka))) to answer for, and if he starts posturing about any sort of gun control, not only will they rapidly turn against him, but they are the likely source of serious violence and/or even an assassination attempt. Hell hath no fury like a scorned right-winger.
 
Foolmewunz said:
I don't think Donnie Johnny is quite grokking who he's dealing with. As rubes in his casinos or brain-dead viewers of his horrible television show, he's used to being able to posture just so long as he gets the camera angles right and pulls of the right poses. He got away with it during the GE, too. He changed horses in mid-stream so often that he started to sprout gills.

But "mah gunz" is not an area he wants to traipse through. A lot of those folks are of the alt-right ilk and they barely tolerate him because he hates beaners and camel jockeys and ******** as much as they do, but he does have (((Javanka))) to answer for, and if he starts posturing about any sort of gun control, not only will they rapidly turn against him, but they are the likely source of serious violence and/or even an assassination attempt. Hell hath no fury like a scorned right-winger.
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A bunch of them seem to be trying to convince themselves that he's not actually favoring gun control but is instead deliberately pushing for an unrealistically ambitious bill that will never pass Congress. When he fails, they can just insist that he did it on purpose. That way they can maintain their image of him as a stable genius without having to change their opinions on guns.
 
pgwenthold said:
Really?

You think the NRA is fine with permit carrying gun owners being shot just for saying they have a concealed weapon?

Shoot, I'm not an NRA member or even a gun fan of any sort, but I have to say, I would think that one of the whole points of a CC permit is that it allows you to concealed weapon, and you should not be shot for doing so.

But hey, the NRA says that's ok?
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He wasn't shot for having a concealed gun. He was shot for reaching for his ID after the cop who shot him told him to produce it.

They generally only shoot brown people for following orders. The NRA is always okay with that. Sometimes they get a bit over-excited and nail a white guy, too, but that's pretty rare.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Been a member for years, and peruse their magazine monthly.
I personally have never picked up on any racist tendencies of the organization at large.
Do you have anything beyond a general perception on this?
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Perhaps someone should ask Wayne Lapierre what he meant by “Eight years of one demographically symbolic president is enough.”, which he said at one of the recent NRA annual meetings.

It's not like Obama could serve another term, so... what was he saying?
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/01/us/politics/trump-chaos-oval-office.html

I think perhaps the most significant paragraphs are towards the end:

Yet Mr. Trump is also frustrated with Mr. Kushner, whom he now views as a liability because of his legal entanglements, the investigations of the Kushner family’s real estate company and the publicity over having his security clearance downgraded, according to two people familiar with his views. In private conversations, the president vacillates between sounding regretful that Mr. Kushner is taking arrows and annoyed that he is another problem to deal with.

Privately, some aides have expressed frustration that Mr. Kushner and his wife, the president’s daughter Ivanka Trump, have remained at the White House, despite Mr. Trump at times saying they never should have come to the White House and should leave. Yet aides also noted that Mr. Trump has told the couple that they should keep serving in their roles, even as he has privately asked Mr. Kelly for his help in moving them out.
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Interesting, if true.
 
The main trading partners of the US have reacted angrily after President Donald Trump announced plans to impose tariffs on steel and aluminium imports.

Canada and the EU said they would bring forward their own countermeasures to the steep new tariffs.

Mexico, China and Brazil have also said they are weighing up retaliatory steps.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43251320

It does look like there is a trade war looming.
 
TofuFighter said:
Perhaps someone should ask Wayne Lapierre what he meant by “Eight years of one demographically symbolic president is enough.”, which he said at one of the recent NRA annual meetings.

It's not like Obama could serve another term, so... what was he saying?
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He was saying people shouldn't vote for Clinton because she's a woman.

But that's technically sexism.
 
Step 1: Trump says something insane that causes a stock market drop
Step 2: Certain someones scoop up cheaper stock
Step 3: Trump backpedals, or it becomes apparent that he can't actually do what he said
Step 4: Stocks return to where they were before, yielding a tidy profit to anyone who bought when they were lowered

Perhaps Trump himself is too stupid to realize this is what's happening and take advantage of it, but I'm sure other people are doing it. Heck, I'd be doing it myself every time he makes a remark if I had the money, and if my middle-class do-it-yourself brokerage allowed me to react quickly enough. Unfortunately you really need a live person buying stuff for you to get in on these things in time. By the time I got steel company stock bought everyone would have realized that it's Congress that does tariffs, not the president.
 
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