The Trump Presidency (Act V - The One Where Everybody Dies)

[Skeptic Ginger]

Take his statement.

Now, imagine it was said by Pope Francis. Or Gandhi. Would it be objectionable then?

I suspect they would have worded it differently.

I imagine the Trump children, raised in the lap of luxury, have internalized the concept that money, possessions and power bring happiness. It may be a revelation to see a beggar on the street in India with practically nothing radiating an inner joy.

Yes.

It may have even been a tiny step towards awareness.

No.

 

[surrogate]

Still, it does seem that there's some sense in there: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/966662241977360384

I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!

Let's see whether this actually comes to pass. Given that the only gun legislation he's signed into law was to roll back Obama-era restrictions on people with mental health problems from buying guns, I can only imagine that this is more to do with PR or pressure than it is due to deeply-held personal beliefs. Perhaps someone's had a word in his ear that it might be better to at least pretend to want to do something about this than to do like his son and endorse conspiracy theories that attack the child survivors of a massacre.

I wonder which 6 regulations will be repealed to in order to enact the 3 he proposed. Expecting 20% of schoolteachers to voluntarily take on the added responsibility of armed security seems a bit unrealistic to me. I propose we build great big beautiful walls around all schools instead.

 

[Hellbound]

I wonder which 6 regulations will be repealed to in order to enact the 3 he proposed. Expecting 20% of schoolteachers to voluntarily take on the added responsibility of armed security seems a bit unrealistic to me. I propose we build great big beautiful walls around all schools instead.

Here's a crazy idea...

We could actually, you know, take 0.5% of the funding we give the military, and put that into schools.

Then we could equip them with bullet-proof classroom doors and windows, full and centralized camera coverage, remote lockable doors from a secure central office, panic buttons that all the staff could wear to lock the place down, and automated response systems to contact the police when those alarms go off.

But nah, that'd never work!

 

[The Greater Fool]

[Edit: Took quote out as my reply didn't apply to quote]

Based on my experience with teachers in my youth, then in my kids youth, then my grand-kids youth, and now my great grand-kids youth, I have no confidence in teachers having guns on campus, in class rooms.

 

[surrogate]

Here's a crazy idea...

We could actually, you know, take 0.5% of the funding we give the military, and put that into schools.

Then we could equip them with bullet-proof classroom doors and windows, full and centralized camera coverage, remote lockable doors from a secure central office, panic buttons that all the staff could wear to lock the place down, and automated response systems to contact the police when those alarms go off.

But nah, that'd never work!

Any idea that requires more than three words to describe is DOA.

 

[The Greater Fool]

Here's a crazy idea...

We could actually, you know, take 0.5% of the funding we give the military, and put that into schools.

Then we could equip them with bullet-proof classroom doors and windows, full and centralized camera coverage, remote lockable doors from a secure central office, panic buttons that all the staff could wear to lock the place down, and automated response systems to contact the police when those alarms go off.

But nah, that'd never work!

For .5% of the military budget, we could not only secure schools but improve every aspect of education.

 

[quadraginta]

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Let's see whether this actually comes to pass. Given that the only gun legislation he's signed into law was to roll back Obama-era restrictions on people with mental health problems from buying guns, I can only imagine that this is more to do with PR or pressure than it is due to deeply-held personal beliefs. Perhaps someone's had a word in his ear that it might be better to at least pretend to want to do something about this than to do like his son and endorse conspiracy theories that attack the child survivors of a massacre.

I doubt that Trump actually has any deeply-held personal beliefs. He certainly hasn't demonstrated the existence of anything resembling that.

Aside from ones which reaffirm his own sense of self-worth and primacy, that is. Everything else seems to be easily picked up or discarded based on its utility or convenience to the moment.

So, with that caveat, it is probably safe to eliminate any such considerations from your analysis.

 

[Trebuchet]

That is almost exactly what many people said about George Bush, Jr and yet he managed to get two terms as the President.

That's because W, unlike Trump, is basically a decent human being. He just spent six years being led around by the likes of Cheney and Rumsfeld.

Now that I think about it, W and Trump are both non-drinkers -- W is a recovering alcoholic, Trump apparently never has. We need a president who likes a sip or two.

I doubt that Trump actually has any deeply-held personal beliefs. He certainly hasn't demonstrated the existence of anything resembling that.

Aside from ones which reaffirm his own sense of self-worth and primacy, that is. Everything else seems to be easily picked up or discarded based on its utility or convenience to the moment.

So, with that caveat, it is probably safe to eliminate any such considerations from your analysis.

I was going to add his belief in himself, but I see you've got it covered. Absolutely nothing else matters to him.

 

[Crossbow]

That's because W, unlike Trump, is basically a decent human being. He just spent six years being led around by the likes of Cheney and Rumsfeld.

Now that I think about it, W and Trump are both non-drinkers -- W is a recovering alcoholic, Trump apparently never has. We need a president who likes a sip or two.

Wow!

Considering the tens of thousands, and perhaps hundreds of thousands, that Bush killed in the Iraq War, as well as the torture programs he instituted, I never thought of George W. Bush as a decent human being.

 

[Segnosaur]

US policy under Trump and afterwards can be neatly summarized as this:

A man comes upon another man who is repeatedly hitting his thumb with a hammer. When asked why he’s beating his thumb to a pulp, the man with the hammer replies, “Because it feels so good when I stop!”

A majority of Americans and US partners will feel so relieved when Trump is gone that they will probably let bygones be bygones; see the premature praise Obama got from Europe, simply because he wasn't Bush.

Unfortunately, if trade patterns are altered (either because trade deals have been cancelled or countries decide not to trade with the U.S. because they seem them as unreliable) it may take years for the problems to sort themselves out. (Trade deals would need to be renegotiated, long term contracts would still be in effect, etc.)

Yes, the world was willing to let "bygone be bygones" when Bush left office, but compared to Trump, Bush's actions were pretty mild. Yeah, people may not have supported the Iraq war, but the U.S. maintained trade deals, foreign aid, etc.

 

[Segnosaur]

Trump (the President) is an idiot, but he's absolutely brilliant compared to Donny Jr.

Speaking of Trump the lesser:

From: http://www.newsweek.com/florida-shooting-donald-trump-jr-david-hogg-814056
A Florida shooting survivor has slammed Donald Trump Jr. as “disgusting” after the president’s son liked a tweet suggesting the teenager was speaking out on gun control as a “cover” for his FBI father. The president’s son liked the online conspiracy theory that was posted by several people on Twitter about teenage survivor David Hogg, who has also been forced to defend himself against a conspiracy that he is a "crisis actor."

 

[Trebuchet]

Wow!

Considering the tens of thousands, and perhaps hundreds of thousands, that Bush killed in the Iraq War, as well as the torture programs he instituted, I never thought of George W. Bush as a decent human being.

I didn't say he was smart. He was being led around by neo-cons who convinced him it was all right.

ETA: Perhaps I should clarify: He's a decent human being relative to Trump.

 

[Crossbow]

I didn't say he was smart. He was being led around by neo-cons who convinced him it was all right.

ETA: Perhaps I should clarify: He's a decent human being relative to Trump.

Again, I think that you are being quite overly generous to Bush; but that is your call to make.

 

[sts60]

Here's a crazy idea...

We could actually, you know, take 0.5% of the funding we give the military, and put that into schools.

Then we could equip them with bullet-proof classroom doors and windows, full and centralized camera coverage, remote lockable doors from a secure central office, panic buttons that all the staff could wear to lock the place down, and automated response systems to contact the police when those alarms go off.

But nah, that'd never work!

Heck, even simpler - if armed, trained people in the schools are the solution, as the GOPNRA insists, why don’t we just pay for a couple of armed, trained, professional law enforcement officers at every school, whose only job is to deter/respond to armed attacks?

Maybe, I don’t know, because the Kochs and Mercers and Trumps might get a fractionally smaller tax break?

 

[Hellbound]

Heck, even simpler - if armed, trained people in the schools are the solution, as the GOPNRA insists, why don’t we just pay for a couple of armed, trained, professional law enforcement officers at every school, whose only job is to deter/respond to armed attacks?

Maybe, I don’t know, because the Kochs and Mercers and Trumps might get a fractionally smaller tax break?

Yep, that too. But if it came down to it, I'd prefer "contain and protect" versus armed response. Having both would be awesome.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd rather take all that money and use it to make the schools themselves better, so that maybe these kids don't fall through the cracks without anyone caring until they come back with a gun.

 

[Hellbound]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd rather take all that money and use it to make the schools themselves better, so that maybe these kids don't fall through the cracks without anyone caring until they come back with a gun.

I'd agree with that, too, but that's something that will take time even if implemented well. Heck, as another poster implied, with 0.5% of the military budget, we could do both

 

[dudalb]

Trump (the President) is an idiot, but he's absolutely brilliant compared to Donny Jr.

There is a reason why people in Trump's White House nicknamed Donny Jr Fredo.....

 

[dudalb]

Trump's solution to school shootings is to arm teachers and other school staff

And, because of course there's a tweet:

TRump is an one trick pony;Say whatever crap will "fire up the base".

As for his arm teachers proposal,that only teachers who should be armed are the DI's in charge of rifle training at the service academies and basic training......

Dumb,dumb,idea.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Again, I think that you are being quite overly generous to Bush; but that is your call to make.

With W I think he can feel empathy and make interpersonal connections not things I think Trump can do. So sure W is a war criminal but he also would feel actual emotions about national tragedies unlike trump. W wasn't giving thumbs up with first responders to 9/11, I think Trump might do that.