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Cont: The Trump Presidency Part IV

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Childlike Empress said:
Ivana Trump:

1. He's not racist
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Dylann Roof's family and friends said the same thing, and as I recall, so did the mother of that terrorist that killed Heather Heyer. Nope, Trump is a white supremacist. Not just "I'm ashamed to admit that I get nervous when I see a black guy walking towards me on the street, even if he's in a business suit and leaving an office tower," but more "Wetbacks and coons are inferior to whites."

2. He is a stable genius
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He is plainly neither.

3. They remain friends
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This is not really my concern, but her family may wish to intervene.

4. He treated her fantastic during the marriage
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Uh, didn't he cheat on her, and rape her?

Captain_Swoop said:
I would be checking to see if they got any money off Trump. He has a history of promising and then not giving.
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Same - and check to see if it was actually his money as well. I consider Paul to be relatively trustworthy in this regard, especially in light of his objections to police militarization and asset seizure/forfeiture, and his push for bond reform. But I do not consider Toupee Fiasco to be the same, in any way, and I do consider Paul's word over the past few days to be unhelpful and enabling.

See, Paul Ryan, this is a *correct* usage of "unhelpful", in that it focuses on the effect, and assesses no. Dolt 45 was only "unhelpful" because of his "white nationalist" tendencies.

What I find interesting, though, is his claim that his remarks would help him with "the base". First, it concedes that "the base" are also white supremacists. Second, uttering racist crap in a private meeting, in the hopes that someone will leak it, seems beyond his mental capabilities. That sounds like more of a Stephen "Triumph of the Will 2017 Warsaw" Miller scheme.
 
Mumbles said:
Dylann Roof's family and friends said the same thing, and as I recall, so did the mother of that terrorist that killed Heather Heyer. Nope, Trump is a white supremacist. Not just "I'm ashamed to admit that I get nervous when I see a black guy walking towards me on the street, even if he's in a business suit and leaving an office tower," but more "Wetbacks and coons are inferior to whites."
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I contend we need more granular words for "racism". It's not a binary of "all men are equals" and "white hoods". There is also inherent racism, institutional racism, "I like my black friends, but groups of black people I don't know are lazy bums" racism, "racism no longer exists" racism, etc.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Interesting.

Josh Dawsey Washington Post Whitehouse Journalist says



Just to clarify the second ******** is a slight variation of the first ********.
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Surely, if it is worth discussing here, we can give a slightly better account.

Is the second string of pointless asterisks a pluralization of the first? Or what the heck might you mean?

Honestly, the mods should remove variants of "********" from the autocensor for a week or so, just as the news organizations have (not PBS, but to be fair, I wouldn't want to hear Judy Woodruff say "********" -- too much for my sense of well-being).
 
phiwum said:
Surely, if it is worth discussing here, we can give a slightly better account.

Is the second string of pointless asterisks a pluralization of the first? Or what the heck might you mean?

Honestly, the mods should remove variants of "********" from the autocensor for a week or so, just as the news organizations have (not PBS, but to be fair, I wouldn't want to hear Judy Woodruff say "********" -- too much for my sense of well-being).
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One ends 'house' the other ends 'hole' so by saying the President said the word with house at the end they can deny he said the hole word.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
One ends 'house' the other ends 'hole' so by saying the President said the word with house at the end they can deny he said the hole word.
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I see. Changes the whole meaning, no doubt. I mean, I wouldn't mind living in a craphouse country, but a craphole country? No thanks!

Honestly, the (uncensored version of the) term "craphouse country" is really awkward. It is not only a stupid defense because the offense is still roughly the same. It is also a stupid defense because it is implausible.

Thanks, Cap'n, for clarifying.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Interesting.

Josh Dawsey Washington Post Whitehouse Journalist says



Just to clarify the second ******** is a slight variation of the first ********.
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Perhaps Perdue and Cotton and Donnie Johnny are getting their dementia meds at the same outpatient clinic? The term ending in "house" is simply not used by New Yorkers of any stripe. It used to be common rural-ese for an outhouse, but I don't know that it's even in use there, any longer. Mind you, if there's a large demographic still using outhouses, that's in Donnie Johnny's camp so mebbe Goober and Gomer done their cipherin' and figure their state Republicans n Georgia and Arkansas will recognize the term. Proposing that someone who hung out at Studio 54, Tavern on the Green, the Rainbow Room and in cosmopolitan private clubs would use the term is just plain damned stupid.

As the Daily Beast pointed out they were marginally safe with "I don't recall". Selling their souls to the VSG (very stable genius) and lying for him just shows how desperate the minions in the party are. They aren't going to get their stupid bill passed even if Donnie the Leper gets behind it. And he's not likely to get behind it, anyway. He'll suck up their adoration and their lies, add them to the list of people he might offer one scoop of ice cream and forget about them.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I can't find this in any mainstream media outlets, but some places are reporting that Haiti has just unsealed records detailing former dictator Duvalier's money laundering through Trump's business
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In the interests of accuracy, the news article you quote doesn't actually use the words "money laundering through Trump's business" as you wrote. (And incidentally the linked url text doesn't use those words either.) What the headline and text actually say is, "laundering money through Trump Tower."

Not to quibble semantics, and I don't know why you changed "Trump Tower" to "Trump's business," but it does imply something a bit different. Btw, according to the news story the former Haitian leader Jean Claude Duvalier (Baby Doc) purchased an apartment at the Trump Tower in 1983 for about $447,000.

I understand apartment owners at Trump Tower are offered many services by the Trump Organization. Is money laundering among them? I wouldn't be surprised to find out it was, and I'd bet most diehard Trump supporters wouldn't be surprised either. ;)
 
Captain_Swoop said:
I see they cite "deficiencies in US political ecology" and tax cuts that "directly reduce the federal government's sources of debt repayment" weakening the base of the government's debt repayment."

Those Tax cuts are having an effect already!
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Or the habit of always having a government shut down right around the corner.
 
newyorkguy said:
In the interests of accuracy, the news article you quote doesn't actually use the words "money laundering through Trump's business" as you wrote.
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Had I intended my text to be thought of as a quote, I'd have used quotations marks, as you have.

Not to quibble semantics, and I don't know why you changed "Trump Tower" to "Trump's business," but it does imply something a bit different.
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Well, you are quibbling semantics. Trump Tower was built by, owned by, administered by, and the headquarters of the Trump Organisation, which is Trump's business.
 
Would you rather **** in a house, or in a hole? S-house implies the country has at least some civilization. S-hole does not.

If you want to get pedantic -- I'm sure The PDJT (or any GOP member) thought of making that distinction.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
I don't get there threat of a shutdown. GOP control both houses and have a President.
Why would there be a shutdown?
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How better to celebrate the 1 year anniversary of Trump taking office?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/us/politics/trump-immigration-********-government-shutdown.html

They are not going to give democrats a clean DACA bill even though Trump supports it, unless his people tell him not to, and the constant looming shutdown and emergency spending measures only are pissing off those who want to see the pentagon able to start new programs.

Damn, the autocensor is censoring the NY Times link so that it doesn't work.

https://tinyurl.com/y72cqcjp
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
I don't get there threat of a shutdown. GOP control both houses and have a President.
Why would there be a shutdown?
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I think that major bills involving spending have to be passed by a supermajority in the senate, so at least some Democrats would have to vote with the republicans.

Plus, many republicans in the house are "tea partiers", and may not support a straight-forward spending bill since they want to see everything cut, thus giving even more need to get Democrat support.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Had I intended my text to be thought of as a quote, I'd have used quotations marks, as you have...
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Yes, you were paraphrasing but I think you were doing it in a way that was misleading. Thirty-five years ago Duvalier the Haitian dictator bought an apartment in Trump Tower. If that was intended as money-laundering, I would presume the idea was to buy it essentially as an investment. Sell it later for a profit and keep the 'laundered funds.' Why change 'buying an apartment' to 'Trump's business?' It was only one of his businesses. If Duvalier had invested in one of Trump's casino deals then I think you could accurately say he tried to launder funds through Trump's business. The article you referred to did not state Duvalier laundered money through Trump's business. It reported that he bought an apartment at Trump Tower. Considerably different.

I guess the other issue is, that Trump agreed (and I would think he had a personal veto on anyone buying an apartment at his Tower) to let the leader of a ******** country move into his flagship property. Who would have thought it? ;)
 
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