Obama ruins the internet

[WilliamSeger]

So when will my internet start slowing down?

The more specific answer to your question is that it will start as soon as ISPs start offering sites prioritized traffic routing for an additional fee, and it will become noticeable as soon as just a few of the heavy-hitters pay up. That effect will snowball when more companies realize that they have to either pay up or be left behind, and if unchecked, it will mean that the rest of the internet will eventually be like using a dial-up modem again.

 

[paulhutch]

So when will my internet start slowing down?

I'm confident it will NOT be before the mid-term elections.

 

[thaiboxerken]

The new rules won't take effect for a couple more months. After that, I think ISP's will largely do nothing, waiting for the public to cool down about this, and probably wait until after 2018 elections as well. Then, they will start their shenanigans when most of the public is not paying attention.

 

[casebro]

The new rules won't take effect for a couple more months. After that, I think ISP's will largely do nothing, waiting for the public to cool down about this, and probably wait until after 2018 elections as well. Then, they will start their shenanigans when most of the public is not paying attention.

Lots of time for the biggies to get er done. I mean, what do Google and Facebook and Netflicks think? Who has the bigger wallet today, Google or Murphreesboro Municipal Cable ?

 

[Civet]

I don't know much about the industry but, if ISPs tried to shake down Google for too much money, couldn't that lead to a rapid expansion of Google fiber?

 

[Trebuchet]

Google is big enough to shake THEM down.

 

[plague311]

The new rules won't take effect for a couple more months. After that, I think ISP's will largely do nothing, waiting for the public to cool down about this, and probably wait until after 2018 elections as well. Then, they will start their shenanigans when most of the public is not paying attention.

I don't think they have that luxury to be perfectly honest. If the Dems pick up the majority they can pass some form of Net Neutrality fill in that would prevent a lot of the tough stuff from happening. Now, naturally The Hair wouldn't sign it, but at least they could make him wear it. For the ISP's to take advantage of this they have to move pretty quick, imo. Even then everything they could do might be undone pretty quick. I think they'll be hesitant because changes to networks involve investment. If you wanna slow all VoIP traffic other than your own, it might not take a ton of time, but it takes time, programming, effort, etc.

Lots of time for the biggies to get er done. I mean, what do Google and Facebook and Netflicks think? Who has the bigger wallet today, Google or Murphreesboro Municipal Cable ?

I honestly haven't kept up with the thread to know enough about your knowledge level, but every big company is pro Net Neutrality. So is almost everyone that uses the internet for anything. Social media users, smaller communities, etc.

 

[Ron_Tomkins]

The more specific answer to your question is that it will start as soon as ISPs start offering sites prioritized traffic routing for an additional fee, and it will become noticeable as soon as just a few of the heavy-hitters pay up. That effect will snowball when more companies realize that they have to either pay up or be left behind, and if unchecked, it will mean that the rest of the internet will eventually be like using a dial-up modem again.

I mean, hasn't it actually already begun happening? I recall seeing these things on Instagram where different tv shows from Netflix and Hulu were telling their customers that certain ISPs such as Spectrum or Verizon were no longer featuring their Tv Show, and these shows were requesting their fans to call their ISP and request that they bring the show back. And I had already begun seeing these before it was formally announced that the FCC eliminated Net Neutrality.

 

[plague311]

I mean, hasn't it actually already begun happening? I recall seeing these things on Instagram where different tv shows from Netflix and Hulu were telling their customers that certain ISPs such as Spectrum or Verizon were no longer featuring their Tv Show, and these shows were requesting their fans to call their ISP and request that they bring the show back. And I had already begun seeing these before it was formally announced that the FCC eliminated Net Neutrality.

Do you have any links to instances? I can't seem to find anything, but I'm wrong on a consistent basis.

 

[blutoski]

I don't know much about the industry but, if ISPs tried to shake down Google for too much money, couldn't that lead to a rapid expansion of Google fiber?

The key word there being "too much money." The ISPs may find that the charges can be in the Billions before Google's abacus tilts toward competing with ISPs.

My impression at this stage is that one of the reasons Google Fiber rollouts have slowed down and been canceled in many municipalities is that Google has lost billions on them. They're not monetizing the connections.

 

[paulhutch]

I mean, hasn't it actually already begun happening? I recall seeing these things on Instagram where different tv shows from Netflix and Hulu were telling their customers that certain ISPs such as Spectrum or Verizon were no longer featuring their Tv Show, and these shows were requesting their fans to call their ISP and request that they bring the show back. And I had already begun seeing these before it was formally announced that the FCC eliminated Net Neutrality.

I believe you are thinking of the messages about cable providers no longer carrying certain cable TV channels.

It would be damn near truly impossible to block a specific show delivered by Netflix or Hulu. You can easily block the whole service but not just a specific show because the services use HTTPS. HTTPS Encrypted data makes distinguishing between shows impossible for all practical purposes.

 

[Aridas]

I honestly haven't kept up with the thread to know enough about your knowledge level, but every big company is pro Net Neutrality. So is almost everyone that uses the internet for anything. Social media users, smaller communities, etc.

Verizon and Comcast aren't big companies?

But yeah, just about everyone that's not an ISP or directly connected to them seems to be in favor of net neutrality, not just big companies, provided that they actually understand the history and nature of it. Basic government regulation of the internet as a utility isn't a pretty solution, but it's probably the most viable one, at this point, especially given that the free market just about can't regulate it in a particularly meaningful way, given the actual status of things in our current reality.