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Apparently, you didn't bother to do your own research to verify my post, which is typical of UFO skeptics. They either don't do their homework or fail to do it properly when they do, and posting in that manner on my part is one of many ways I have proven my point regarding UFO skeptics.

If you had done your homework, you would have found that I was correct when I said that radar controllers have confirmed the UFO over Rendlesham forest.
 
Why do you lie so much? A policeman, PC Brian Cresswell, went to the landing scene and wrote down

"“There were three marks in the area which did not follow a set pattern. The impression made by these marks were of no depth and could have been made by an animal.
https://drdavidclarke.co.uk/secret-files/secret-files-4/


On the contrary, the military took measurements as well including radiation readings which were higher in the depressions than the surrounding area. Ever wondered how one of the persons involved was able to collect on his injuries in that area? Think about it. What supported his case?

British UFO encounter "gave me heart failure", says US airman after military chiefs agree to pay his medical bills

US Veterans Association pays out for medical treatment of man hit by heart problems he blames on famous Suffolk UFO encounter

Airman First Class John Burroughs was involved in an incident in Rendlesham Forest in December 1980 which has become known as "Britain's Roswell".

He was exposed to huge doses of radiation whilst investigating a mysterious craft and claimed this left him in need of "lifesaving" heart surgery.

After decades of being "stonewalled", he has finally persuaded the US Veteran's Association (VA) to pay for his treatment.

His lawyer hailed the dramatic legal about-turn as a "de facto" admission that UFOs exist and can cause "physical injury".

"In citing the [MoD radiation documents] and in granting John Burroughs full disability for his injuries in Rendlesham Forest, the US Government has by de facto acknowledged the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena which, in John Burroughs' case, resulted in physical injury," Pat Frascogna said in an email.

Nick Pope, a researcher who spent several years investigating UFOs as a employee at the MoD, told us: "I think this development is hugely significant, whatever you believe about UFOs.

"One moment the US government was saying that nothing happened, but the next, John Burroughs and his attorney get hold of a formerly classified report that says John was probably irradiated by something in Rendlesham Forest."

Finally, Burroughs' legal team found two documents from the British Ministry of Defence which showed high levels of radiation were detected at the site where he encountered the mystery UFO.
He said: "The legal victory John Burroughs has secured with the Veterans Administration is nothing short of sensational. It's implications for the reality of UFOs as real and almost certainly of ET origin are huge.
"For the VA to acknowledge that John was exposed to radiation from a UFO/UAP during the Rendlesham Forest incident is unprecedented. Not only does it validate what the actual witnesses have been saying for 35 years but should also put paid to the ridiculous sceptical arguments that have been regularly repeated in the mainstream media that have always lacked genuine foundation."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/british-ufo-encounter-gave-heart-5266589
 
Apparently, you didn't bother to do your own research to verify my post, which is typical of UFO skeptics. They either don't do their homework or fail to do it properly when they do, and posting in that manner on my part is one of many ways I have proven my point regarding UFO skeptics.

If you had done your homework, you would have found that I was correct when I said that radar controllers have confirmed the UFO over Rendlesham forest.

So you deliberately don't provide supporting evidence for your outrageous lies because you want to show the skeptics up? Wow, just wow.

The reality is that have an ego the size of an A380, and a hugely over-inflated opinion of yourself.

The reality is that you are a flat out liar. You don't support your claims because you cannot.

The reality is that your lies convince no-one here unless they are weak-minded fools
 
That approach doesn't appear to be convincing anybody.


You must remember, reality doesn't depend on what anyone thinks. Make a request under the FOIA and see for yourself. After all, the U.S. government has been releasing its UFO files from the National Archives for years.


The evidence for aliens having reached earth appears to be garbage.

I find it interesting that you said that. Let's take a look at what Carl Saga said at the 1968 Congressional UFO Symposium in 1968.


SYMPOSIUM ON UNIDENTIFIED

FLYING OBJECTS

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE AND ASTRONAUTICS

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETIETH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

JULY 29, 1968


Dr. Sagan: "Apparently what is now happening is that the Air Force surveillance radar is throwing away the data that is of relevance for this inquiry. In other words, if it sees something that is not on a ballistic trajectory, or not in orbit, it ignores it, it throws it in the garbage."
"Well, that garbage is just the area of our interest. So if some method could be devised by the Air Force to save the output that they are throwing away from these space surveillance radars, it might be the least expensive way to significantly improve our information about these phenomena."

http://files.ncas.org/ufosymposium/index.html


TOP SECRET SPY SATELLITES SPOT UFOS


A September, 1976 UFO encounter near Teheran, Iran may have been recorded by a secret DSP satellite. The incident involved two brilliantly glowing UFOs first reported by ground observers. One object, estimated to be 30 feet in diameter, reportedly went from ground level to an altitude of 40,000 feet, and was visible at a distance of 70 miles. An Imperial Iranian Air Force F-4 jet fighter was sent aloft and managed to aim a Sidewinder AIM-19 air-to-air missile at the target before its electronic systems failed. Apart from the visible light factor, this indicates that the UFO gave off enough infrared energy for the Sidewinder's IR sensor to lock on to it.

An impressive breakthrough in the confirmation of the Iranian UFO encounter was uncovered by researchers Lee Graham and Ron Regehr, of Aero-Jet in California. They confirmed that the UFO sighting over Tehran was, in fact, tracked by the United States military's DSP satellite. During their investigations, Graham and Regehr have located computer print-outs from the time frame of the Iranian UFO overflight, which show that the DSP definitely detected an "anomalous object" in Iranian air space.

Computer printout of the anomalous event with the classified term "238 SCANS - POSSIBLE SR." The term "238 SCANS" indicates that the event lasted more than an hour. This is the only case so far where there was confirmation of a UFO sighting by observers both on the ground, in the air and by the DSP-1. It would be an interesting project to compare DSP records to other reported anomalous sightings around the world.

http://www.ufodigest.com/shadowmag/extra/topsecret.html


I have posted documents relating to the Iranian UFO encounter, which soon made their way to the White House. The Iranian UFO encounter would probably have remained classified to this very day had it not been for the lawsuit against the CIA. Afterward, documents relating to the encounter were released. You can go back and read the documents I posted.


Telling us the world's governments have agreed to keep the good stuff secret fails at "have agreed".


They are no longer keeping their UFO files a secret. Even the UN wants to get in on the action.


UN prepares for 'first contact' with alien life

The United Nations is about to appoint a little-known Malaysian astrophysicist to head its Office for Outer Space Affairs, which could soon be designated with the task of communicating with extraterrestrials. Mazlan Othman will tell delegates to a scientific conference next week at a country house outside London that she will head the UN office and be in charge of talking to any aliens who either arrive here from another world or, more likely, communicate with us.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/un-prepares-for-first-contact-with-alien-life-2090420.html


Group Calls for Disclosure of UFO Info

They're out there — and the government knows.

That's according to a group of about 20 former government workers, many of them military and security officials, who stepped forward on Wednesday to say they had witnessed evidence of aliens and unidentified flying objects and called for congressional hearings about such sightings.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=98572


Former U.S. Air Force Officers Recount Experiences With UFOs at Nuclear Missile Bases

September 27, 2010, ABC News


http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/airmen-govt-clean-ufos/story?
id=11738715


Ex-Air Force Personnel: UFOs Deactivated Nukes

September 27, 2010, CBS News


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-air-force-personnel-ufos-deactivated-nukes/[/B]


Ex-Air Force officers call UFOs and nukes a real 'security concern'

September 27, 2010, USA Today


http://content.usatoday.com/communi...issiles-at-national-press-club/1#.WkcrK_kwi9I


UFOs eyed nukes, ex-Air Force personnel say

September 27, 2010, CNN Blog


http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27/ufos-showed-interest-in-nukes-ex-air-force-personnel-say/


Former Air Force officers discuss UFO sightings

September 27, 2010, Air Force Times


https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/...-Force-officers-discuss-UFO-sightings-092710/


Aliens Are Monitoring Our Nukes, Worry Ex-Air Force Officers

September 23, 2010, Fox News


http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2010/09/23/aliens-monitoring-nukes-worry-ex-air-force-officers.html


Aliens have deactivated British and US nuclear missiles, say US military pilots

September 27, 2010, Telegraph (One of the UK's leading newspapers)


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...y-were-playing-with-fire-during-Cold-War.html


Former Air Force Officers Claim UFOs Visited Bases, Tampered With Nukes

September 28, 2010, Popular Science magazine


https://www.popsci.com/technology/a...-force-officers-claim-ufos-tampered-our-nukes


Government is covering up UFO evidence, group says

THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The U.S. government has been covering up evidence of extraterrestrial visits for more than 50 years, an array of 20 retired Air Force, Federal Aviation Administration and intelligence officers said Wednesday.

They demanded Congress hold hearings on what they say is long-standing secret U.S. involvement with UFOs and extraterrestrials.

The individuals who have these sightings range from airline pilots and military pilots to police officers, some of the people your lives depend on, on a daily basis," retired Air Force Lt. Col. Charles Brown told a roomful of skeptical reporters.

https://www.wanttoknow.info/ufosgovernmentwitnessestestify
 
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Well, I am "former military personnel" who knew quite a few of the Americans both at RAF Woodbridge and RAF Bentwaters because I worked with them. They knew what was going on, and it had nothing to do with Flying Saucers or aliens.


And, I knew three who were there as well and they were my co-workers at Travis AFB, and all three have confirmed the Rendlesham UFO event, one of whom was my assistant on a government contract.
 
Apparently, you didn't bother to do your own research to verify my post, which is typical of UFO skeptics. They either don't do their homework or fail to do it properly when they do, and posting in that manner on my part is one of many ways I have proven my point regarding UFO skeptics.

If you had done your homework, you would have found that I was correct when I said that radar controllers have confirmed the UFO over Rendlesham forest.

Your claim, your homework. Get on it.
 
What’s Going On In the Skies Over Western Air Bases?

On October 23, 2010, F.E. Warren Air Force Base, in Cheyenne, Wyoming, temporarily lost the ability to communicate with 50 of its Minuteman III nuclear missiles. The five Missile Alert Facilities responsible for launching those ICBMs in time of war, the 319th Missile Squadron, would have been unable to do so during the disruption.

This dramatic story was leaked to Mark Ambinder, a contributing editor at The Atlantic, which published it three days later. The Air Force then quickly acknowledged the problem, saying that a back-up system could have launched the missiles and that the breakdown had lasted a mere 59 minutes. However, the latter statement was untrue, according to two missile technicians stationed at F.E. Warren, who say the communications problem, while intermittent, lasted several hours.

On September 27, 2010, less than a month before the incident at F.E. Warren, six of those individuals participated in a UFO-Nukes Connection press conference in Washington D.C. and described UFO activity at F.E. Warren’s missile sites-and those located near Malmstrom AFB, Montana, and Walker AFB, New Mexico, in the 1960s and ’70s. Another participant, a former deputy base commander, discussed his own 1980 sighting of a disc-shaped object that hovered near a nuclear bomb storage depot and apparently directed beams of light down onto it.

The press conference received tremendous media coverage resul-ting in thousands of online and print articles and broadcast news stories worldwide. CNN streamed the event live and a video of it can be viewed.

That high-profile gathering of credible sources, co-sponsored by former USAF nuclear missile launch officer Robert Salas, a U.S. Air Force Academy graduate stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base in 1960s and early ’70s, was the result of decades of research. Over the past 38 years, I have interviewed more than 120 former or retired U.S. military personnel who report ongoing UFO incursions at nuclear weapons sites including missile launch facilities, strategic bomber bases, weapons storage areas, and bomb test ranges in Nevada and the Pacific during the Cold War era.

A Brief History
Reports of UFO activity at nuclear weapons facilities is old news for those who know the facts. Captain Edward Ruppelt, the first chief of the Air Force’s UFO investigations group, Project Blue Book, spoke about such cases during a June 1952 interview with Look magazine. A fuller examination of the “ominous correlation” between UFO sightings and nukes-related sites appeared in Ruppelt’s 1956 book, The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects, published after he had resigned from the Air Force. Ruppelt wrote, “UFOs were seen more frequently around areas vital to the defense of the United States. The Los Alamos-Albuquerque area, Oak Ridge, and White Sands Proving Ground rated high.”
Each of these locations was directly or indirectly involved in America’s nuclear weapons program. Various declassified FBI and Air Force memoranda, and other reliable reports, note no fewer than 14 separate UFO sightings at Oak Ridge during the period from October 12 to December 20, 1950. The tally was based on reports provided by governmental security officers at the installation, military pilots and radar personnel.

Declassified Documents
When ICBMs began to be deploy-ed in the early 1960s, UFO sightings began to occur at related sites and warhead storage facilities. Declassified Air Force documents discuss some of those incidents at Minot AFB, North Dakota, in 1966,
Minot AFB UFO Incident

http://minotb52ufo.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7JhNBMKIl4

http://minotb52ufo.com/introduction.php


24th NORAD Region Senior Director's Log (Malmstrom AFB, Montana)

10 NOV 75 (1125Z) - UFO sighting reported by Minot Air Force Station, a
bright star-like object in the west, moving east, about the size of a car.
First seen approximately 1015Z. Approximately 1120Z, the object passed
over the radar station, 1,000 feet to 2,000 feet high, no noise heard.
Three people from the site or local area saw the object. NCOC notified.

2. HQ USAF/DADF also forwarded a copy of a NORAD document for a review
for possible downgrade and release. We have determined the document is
properly and currently classified and is exempt from disclosure under
public law 90-23, 5 USC 552b(1).

3. The decision to withhold release of this document may be appealed in
writing to the Secretary of the Air Force within 45 days from the date of
this letter. If you appeal, include any reasons for reconsideration you
wish to present and attach a copy of this letter. Address your letter as
follows: Secretary of the Air Force, thru HQ ADCOM/DAD, Peterson AFB CO
80914.

TERRENCE C. JAMES, COLONEL, USAF
Director of Administration CY to: HQ USAF/DAD
HQ USAF/JACL

http://www.minotafs.org/documents/foia-ufo-75.html


and Malmstrom AFB, Montana,...


Malmstrom AFB UFO Incidents
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ff7c9fb3387e.jpg

http://www.nicap.org/malmstrom67dir.htm

http://www.cufon.org/cufon/malmstrom/malm1.htm

Former Boeing Engineer, Robert Kaminski Confirms UFO Activity at Echo Flight Missile Launch Control Facility in 1967

“Since this was a field site peculiar incident, a determination was made to send out an investigation team to survey the LCF [Echo Launch Control Facility] and the LFs [Launch Facilities, or silos] to determine what failures or related incidents could be found to explain the cause. The team was made up of qualified engineers and technicians headed by scientific person who was a glaciologist. There were about 5 persons in all that were sent out. After a week in the field the team returned and pooled their data. At the outset the team quickly noticed a lack of anything that would come close to explain why the event occurred. There were no significant failures, engineering data or findings that would explain how ten missiles were knocked off alert. This indeed turned out to be a rare event and not encountered before. The use of backup power systems and other technical system circuit operational redundancy strongly suggests that this kind of event is virtually impossible once the system was up and running and on line with other LCF's and LF's interconnectivity.

[After months of investigation,] the team met with me to report their findings and it was decided that the final report would have nothing significant in it to explain what happened at E-Flight. In other words there was no technical explanation that could explain the event. The team went off to do the report. Meanwhile I was contacted by our representative at OOAMA (Don Peterson) and told by him that the incident was reported as being a UFO event—That a UFO was seen by some Airmen over the LCF [sic] at the time E-Flight went down.

Subsequently, we were notified a few days later, that a stop work order was on the way from OOAMA to stop any further effort on this project. We stopped. We were also told that we were not to submit the final engineering report. This was most unusual since all of our work required review by the customer and the submittal of a final Engineering report to OOAMA.”

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2010/09/vidcast-former-boeing-engineer-robert.html


OOAMA, Hill AFB, UT, my base, 2952 CLSS, August 1968 - January 1971.


"November 7, (1975) Malmstrom AFB, Montana. A Sabotage Alert Team described seeing a brightly glowing orange, football field-sized disc that illuminated the Minuteman ICBM missile site. As F-106 jet interceptors approached, the UFO took off straight up, NORAD radar tracking it to an altitude of 200,000 feet [38 miles or 60 km.]. An object... emitted a light which illuminated the site driveway. The orange-gold object overhead also has small lights on it.

"November 8, Malmstrom AFB. Radar showed up to 7 objects at 9,500 to 15,000 feet [2,900 m. to 4,700 m.]. Ground witnesses reported lights and the sound of jet engines, but radar showed objects flying at only 7 kts. [8 mph or 13 km./hr.].

"November 10, Minot AFB, North Dakota. A bright, noiseless object about the size of a car buzzed the base at 1,000-2,000 feet [300-600 m.].

Source: Extracts: 24 NORAD Region Senior Director Log November 1975.

https://www.nicap.org/norad3b1.htm


F.E. Warren AFB itself experienced an hours-long incident on August 1, 1965, involving as many as six objects “stacked vertically” above various missile sites, according to a Project Blue Book memorandum published by the group’s scientific consultant, Dr. J. Allen Hynek.

https://montanapioneer.com/whats-going-on-in-the-skies-over-western-air-bases/


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As you wish. Just review my last post, and that's just for starters.


That's about radar operators tracking a Rendlesham forest UFO?

If I missed it, it was because it was well-camouflaged.

Frankly, your posts are usually nothing but bait-and switch cons, so I usually expect to be disappointed.
 
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That's about radar operators tracking a Rendlesham forest UFO?

If I missed it, it was because it was well-camouflaged.

Frankly, your posts are usually nothing but bait-and switch cons, so I usually expect to be disappointed.


I would like for you to obtain the names of the radar controllers who have confirmed the UFO over Rendlesham forest and verify to everyone here that I was correct. You know how to do it and I might add that is the way I work with UFO skeptics when I see the need.
 
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That's about radar operators tracking a Rendlesham forest UFO?

If I missed it, it was because it was well-camouflaged.

Frankly, your posts are usually nothing but bait-and switch cons, so I usually expect to be disappointed.

Yep, its the thing Flying Saucer "enthusiasts" always do when caught lying... divert to previously debunked rubbish from dubious pro-Flying Saucer sources. Oh, some of the links might go to the ABC or CBS or other fairly reputable news organizations, but ultimately the sources there are almost always UFO nutjob sites such as cufon, nicap etc. FFS he's even linked to a site that stands as one of the greatest echo-chambers with one of the largest collections of nut-cases on the internet.... abovetopsecret!!!
 
JAL 1628: the Alaskan FAA Investigator's Summary

The FAA had kept a great deal of data on the incident including all the positional radar data, an actual video recording of the radar screen, and all the audio records from both calls to the military base, including the conversations with Captain Kenju Terauchi, the pilot of flight 1628 (recorded as the event transpired). The FAA investigator assigned to the case, John Callahan, investigated the incident in depth and put on a ‘dog and pony show’ for a small group representatives from several branches of the US Government, and handed over all copies of the data collect to the appropriate officials. What slipped passed those official’s knowledge, was that Mr. Callahan had all the original documents in a box under his desk, and there they sat for several years, available to anyone interested in the case. It should be understood, that John Callahan remains truthful and willing to cooperate in any way with any inquiries on the subject of JAL flight 1628.

"As the Division Manager for the FAA Washington headquarters Accidents, Evaluation and Investigations, I was responsible for the quality of air traffic service provided to the FAA users." Mr. Callahan states. "When informed of the ‘UFO incident involving a Japanese B747 in the Alaskan region’

I ordered the RADAR recorded data and voice tapes flown to the FAA Technical Center in Atlantic City, New Jersey for evaluation and analysis by both FAA Hardware and Software experts.

After reviewing the play back of the event on a controller’s scope, referred to as a ‘PVD’ and receiving a detailed analysis of the incident, I briefed the FAA Administrator and members of President Reagan’s scientific staff, CIA, etc. on the following information:

During the play back of the event I observed a primary radar target in the position reported by the Japanese pilot. The intermittent primary target stayed in close proximately to the B747 for approximately 31 minutes. Both the FAA controller and military NORAD controller reported observing the RADAR return of the ‘UFO’ target on their ‘scopes.’
There was no noticeable ‘weather’ in the area. ‘You can see into next Tuesday’ was reported by a United pilot.

The UFO was painted as an extremely large primary target. As a result of the lacking run length identification the FAA computer system treated the UFO RADAR return as ‘weather’ and transmitted it to the controller’s PVD via a non recorded line.

(All known aircraft are programed in the FAA computer systems ‘Run Length’ table.)

At the conclusion of the hand-off briefing the CIA advised they were ‘confiscating all the data, this event never happened, we were never here and you are all sworn to secrecy.’ They also advised they would not notify the media as it would only ‘scare’ the public

http://dimensionzone.com/ufo/ufo_japan.htm
 
So you deliberately don't provide supporting evidence for your outrageous lies because you want to show the skeptics up?


The typical UFO skeptic who cannot accept reality for what it is tend to show themselves up. After all, they were the ones who claimed that the Roswell incident was a weather balloon before the Air Force changed its story in 1994 and threw out its weather balloon story, which I knew was false, and change its story to a non-existent Project Mogul balloon flight #4 that never was, which I knew was false as well.
 
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You must remember, reality doesn't depend on what anyone thinks.
Indeed. Not even you.



Let's take a look at what Carl Saga said at the 1968 Congressional UFO Symposium in 1968.

He said stop throwing away tracking data because it might reveal aliens. Did it reveal aliens? No.

I have posted documents relating to the Iranian UFO encounter.

I got my fill of the Tehran F4 story in another long thread here years ago. Incoherent fragments of claims which only true believers can pull together into a story they like. Garbage.


They are no longer keeping their UFO files a secret. Even the UN wants to get in on the action.


So where's the *good* stuff?
 
Apparently, you didn't bother to do your own research to verify my post, which is typical of UFO skeptics.
Exactly the opposite. I wrote down the lies you have made so far and then carefully found and posted links to the hard evidence proving you were lying.

Here is another of your direct lies
If you had done your homework, you would have found that I was correct when I said that radar controllers have confirmed the UFO over Rendlesham forest.

"But RAF UKADR logs revealed no evidence that any unusual radar tracks had been detected or reported during the entire Christmas period. As a result MoD decided that “US night-time military movements”, the beam from the Orfordness lighthouse or even lights used by poachers were more likely explanations than an alien landing"
https://drdavidclarke.co.uk/secret-files/secret-files-4/
 
Here is another of your direct lies
On the contrary, the military took measurements as well including radiation readings which were higher in the depressions than the surrounding area.
1) You forgot to state the measurement. The "landing indentation" was only 36mm deep which was the same as all the thousands of other rabbit scrapings in the forest.

2) The "radiation measurement" was the same as the background radiation measurement.

3) Because you don't know what radioactive half life is, you forgot that any magical UFO radiation should still be there today. .......but it isn't.


"Col Conrad adds a further detail not mentioned in Halt’s report to the Ministry of Defence “…Sgt. Nevels, the Geiger counter operator, initially reported slightly elevated readings after his first visit to the location. However on a subsequent verbal report, he gave the radiation levels as equal to the normal background “noise”.

"As for the radiation detected at the “landing site” three independent scientific experts, including the makers of the Geiger counter, have since stated there was nothing unusual in the levels recorded by Halt’s team in the forest. They were simply background levels that would be expected in a pine forest."
https://drdavidclarke.co.uk/secret-files/secret-files-4/
 
As you wish. Just review my last post, and that's just for starters.
Rendlesham Forest is not in the USA. It is in another country called the United Kingdom.

Would it help you bought a map of the world?

I'm still laughing at your previous made up claim the Soviet Unions GRU saw UFOs flying over US missiles in the USA. Do many Russian soldiers spot UFO from USA missile bases?
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