Obama ruins the internet

Captain_Swoop said:
Twitter is popular, let's charge extra for Twitter.

ebay is polular, let's charge extra for ebay.

Facebook is popular let's chargge extra for Facebook.

Web searches are popular, lets charge extra for ... etc

Different packages for different activities.

Social Media extra pack, Movie viewing extra pack.

Use your imagination.
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Cable TV does this and are losing market share rapidly. It isn't a good strategy anymore. On the other hand, I use no Social Media services so if I can pay less I'm fine with it ;)
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Twitter is popular, let's charge extra for Twitter.

ebay is polular, let's charge extra for ebay.

Facebook is popular let's chargge extra for Facebook.

Web searches are popular, lets charge extra for ... etc

Different packages for different activities.

Social Media extra pack, Movie viewing extra pack.

Use your imagination.
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Even better: wal-mart pays us $0.10 per click, Target pays $0.02. Therefore all the Target searches get pushed to the back of the line and run at 1/1000 speed, or get redirected to Wal Mart.

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rwguinn said:
Even better: wal-mart pays us $0.10 per click, Target pays $0.02. Therefore all the Target searches get pushed to the back of the line and run at 1/1000 speed, or get redirected to Wal Mart.

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Yes, that's the kind of competitive innovation they're looking for: the competition to be the highest bidder for prioritized access. I heard a high-ranking Verizon executive say pretty much that to employees in an "all hands" meeting many years ago, telling us why it was important to the company to support their anti-net-neutrality campaign.

(ETA: It's not really per click, though: It's just a matter of letting the clients who pay extra to cut in line ahead of other net traffic.)
 
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Upchurch said:
Well, it will allow bigger well-established companies to essentially deprioritize the traffic of their competitors' startups to the point that they are unusable, thus destroying small business and squashing innovation and allowing the older companies to monopolize their markets, regardless of merit.


...or did you mean benefit to you?
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Even more than that, they can block traffic to sites that they simply don't like. A website keeping track of complaints about Comcast? Comcast users are about to see: 404 Not Found.

They can even do regional traffic deprioritizing. So if you are in an area with only one ISP that also happens to have their own video content, Netflix may be degraded. But in areas where users have another option (that doesn't also block Netflix) they'll probably leave it alone.
 
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With the dismantling of consumer protections coming just in time.

Corporations buying government officials to etch their profit-making apparatus into law* and permanently shut out competitors. What could possibly go wrong?





*Yes I know it's not technically "law", but tomato tomahto.
 
Senator Markey Leads Resolution to Restore FCC’s Net Neutrality Rules

Senator Markey said:
CRA resolution would reinstate robust net neutrality protections and the Open Internet Order

Washington (December 14, 2017) – Senator Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), a member of the Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, and 15 other Senators today announced their plan to introduce a Congressional Review Act (CRA) resolution that would undo today’s action by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and restore the 2015 net neutrality rules. Today, the FCC approved an item that guts the 2015 Open Internet Order, which the D.C. Circuit Court upheld in 2016. The Open Internet Order prohibited internet service providers from setting up internet fast and slow lanes and ensured they could not block or slow down internet traffic.

“Donald Trump’s FCC made an historic mistake today by overturning its net neutrality rules, and we cannot let it stand,” said Senator Markey. “Without strong net neutrality rules, entrepreneurs, inventors, small businesses, activists and all those who rely on a free and open internet will be at the mercy of big broadband companies that can block websites, slow down traffic and charge websites fees in order to increase their profits.

“We will fight the FCC’s decisions in the courts, and we will fight it in the halls of Congress,” continued Senator Markey. “With this CRA, Congress can correct the Commission’s misguided and partisan decision and keep the internet in the hands of the people, not big corporations. Our Republicans colleagues have a choice - be on the right side of history and stand with the American people who support net neutrality, or hold hands with the big cable and broadband companies who only want to supercharge their profits at the expense of consumers and our economy.”
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pgwenthold said:
Can someone explain the argument for how this benefits the American people?

Or does it just come down to "it will make internet providers more profitable and that is good for everyone"?
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I believe the official line is:

Something something regulation overreach...... something something free market.
 
One of the arguments is that ISP's will regulate themselves and the free market will be the enforcement........

Remember when rivers were on fire? That was industry regulating themselves.
 
mgidm86 said:
Cable TV does this and are losing market share rapidly. It isn't a good strategy anymore. On the other hand, I use no Social Media services so if I can pay less I'm fine with it ;)
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Pay less than people who purchase the social media package. You will not be paying less than you do now.
 
I'm sure those ISPs only spent millions lobbying for this on principle, they don't intend to make that money back somehow by charging more. That's not what business is about.
 
thaiboxerken said:
One of the arguments is that ISP's will regulate themselves and the free market will be the enforcement........

Remember when rivers were on fire? That was industry regulating themselves.
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Well, going by Trumps activities today your burning rivers will soon be back.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Well, going by Trumps activities today your burning rivers will soon be back.
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You mean this? “We’re going to cut a ribbon because we’re getting back below the 1960 level and we’ll be there fairly quickly.”

The date isn't coincidental; it's the time before the environmental movement.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Twitter is popular, let's charge extra for Twitter.

ebay is polular, let's charge extra for ebay.

Facebook is popular let's chargge extra for Facebook.

Web searches are popular, lets charge extra for ... etc

Different packages for different activities.

Social Media extra pack, Movie viewing extra pack.

Use your imagination.
Click to expand...
Anyone who has played an MMO that switched from subscription to "free" to play has seen what the internet will soon turn into.

This is where the tapatalk signature that annoys people used to be
 
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