Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 2

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Lurch said:
So law enforcement is not supposed to hold any political opinions whatsoever? Not until humans are replaced with robots.

Any thinking person can see that opinions can be held but nonetheless be suppressed so as to not exert undue bias in the capacity of one's duties.

The police that Trump exhorted to be rough on suspects can still comport themselves in compliance with Constitutional directives without letting their feelings lead to actions they might wish to be permitted. So too for FBI agents.

Actually, we *want* some measure of a kind of bias in law enforcement. And that is bias against wrongdoers that compell and inspire to prosecute with vigor.

Trumpists would be only too happy to have the FBI fully staffed with fellow believers exercising every bias in favour of the Leader. Yeah, *that* kind of bias would only be too welcome.
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Lol

They can’t hold any opinions you say? Beautiful! Did you get a chance to read their insignificant opinions? Love it!
 
BobTheCoward said:
I read the article. It was stupid. I don't have time to take on all the dumb points at this hour, so I will start with the first two dumb ones.



No. The special counsel letter specifically says "any links" to Russia (not just coordination) and any matters that arose directly from the investigation.

Should he not have such a broad mandate? Possibly. But where it is now is the original mandate.



Those "officials" is rod rosenstein who was a bush appointee. The Mueller appointment assumed no such thing about Comey coming under investigation.

As an aside, it is editorial malpractice to assert conflicts of interest without ever actually citing department conflict of interest policies.
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I’m fine with whatever they come up with. One things for certain it won’t be anything to do with Russian collusion. But of course you’ll be quite happy with your great nothing burger. You got some process crime convictions, goody!
 
It's strange how the Trumpsters ignore the fact that the FBI was anti-Hillary prior to, and during the 2016 elections. They've been anti-Hillary for over a decade. But now, Fox and Trumpsters are claiming the FBI are in a conspiracy to topple Trump and are Hillary shills?!
 
thaiboxerken said:
It's strange how the Trumpsters ignore the fact that the FBI was anti-Hillary prior to, and during the 2016 elections. They've been anti-Hillary for over a decade. But now, Fox and Trumpsters are claiming the FBI are in a conspiracy to topple Trump and are Hillary shills?!
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Hey, it's never a Trumpsters' fault.
 
Emily's Cat said:
:rolleyes: Clearly, because he's an "ex" foreign intelligence operative, he would have zero ties to that foreign government, yes?
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:confused:

So are you claiming the BRITISH government was trying to dig dirt on Trump?

EDIT: Having seen your later reply

Trump was offered, but does not appear to have received*, information about his political opponent from a foreign person with alleged ties to a foreign government.
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Clarification - the Trump campaign seems to have solicited, not simply been offered information.

Clinton paid actual money for information that she is known to have received about her political opponent from a foreign person who was a known intelligence operative for a foreign country.
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No evidence provided for any direct payment to him, or any current connection with intelligence organisations, or that the information came from government sources, or that the information was obtained illegally. Did I mention he was British?

But in these two scenarios, Clinton's actions are perfectly acceptable, whereas Trump's actions are treasonous.
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At some point stretching to be even-handed is no longer believable.
 
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thaiboxerken said:
It's strange how the Trumpsters ignore the fact that the FBI was anti-Hillary prior to, and during the 2016 elections. They've been anti-Hillary for over a decade. But now, Fox and Trumpsters are claiming the FBI are in a conspiracy to topple Trump and are Hillary shills?!
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logger refused to even read an article about the anti-Clinton bias in what had come to be called "Trumpland". How could he acknowledge the facts and still paint himself as the poor widdle victim?
 
thaiboxerken said:
It's strange how the Trumpsters ignore the fact that the FBI was anti-Hillary prior to, and during the 2016 elections. They've been anti-Hillary for over a decade. But now, Fox and Trumpsters are claiming the FBI are in a conspiracy to topple Trump and are Hillary shills?!
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The FBI, that's the bulky guy with the dark glasses and the black SUV, right? Yeah, he doesn't like Killary because she's a woman.

:rolleyes:

Do you really want to pretend that we all don't know that this is about specific people with names at the top of the org?
 
Childlike Empress said:
The FBI, that's the bulky guy with the dark glasses and the black SUV, right? Yeah, he doesn't like Killary because she's a woman.

:rolleyes:

Do you really want to pretend that we all don't know that this is about specific people with names at the top of the org?
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The tippy top of the org chart doesn't strike me as particularly biased.
 
BobTheCoward said:
The tippy top of the org chart doesn't strike me as particularly biased.
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In case you really haven't paid attention, Bob Parry's latest has an update: The Foundering Russia-gate ‘Scandal’

Consortium News said:
Exclusive: Taking on water from revealed FBI conflicts of interest, the foundering Russia-gate probe – and its mainstream media promoters – are resorting to insults against people who note the listing ship, writes Robert Parry.
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thaiboxerken said:
It's strange how the Trumpsters ignore the fact that the FBI was anti-Hillary prior to, and during the 2016 elections. They've been anti-Hillary for over a decade. But now, Fox and Trumpsters are claiming the FBI are in a conspiracy to topple Trump and are Hillary shills?!
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This would be funny if it weren't for the stench of fascism: Calling for an investigation to see if anyone in the FBI doesn't like Trump is basically asserting that not liking Trump is criminal. But it does show that virtually everyone can see where the Mueller investigation is headed; we're just waiting for the details.
 
WilliamSeger said:
This would be funny if it weren't for the stench of fascism: Calling for an investigation to see if anyone in the FBI doesn't like Trump is basically asserting that not liking Trump is criminal. But it does show that virtually everyone can see where the Mueller investigation is headed; we're just waiting for the details.
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There is already enough public information to establish that?

You seem to not even have a clue that this is going on.
https://oig.justice.gov/press/2017/2017-01-12.pdf
 
WilliamSeger said:
Lordy, no -- tell me what you're accusing FBI investigators of. Saying that Trump is a turd is not illegal -- yet -- and neither is contributing to the president's opposition party.
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Lol

You don’t even understand these investigations are supposed to be unbiased, it’s why they’re doing the investigation because our government doesn’t trust itself to do an impartial investigation. You don’t even know how this works
 
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