Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

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If Hillary Clinton is done, what's the deal with her new Super-PAC?

I don't know, did you bother looking to see?

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Seems that the only connection to Hillary is that it uses a quote by her on the front page. Hey but why let little things like facts get in the way of a good beat up, right?
 
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I don't know, did you bother looking to see?



Seems that the only connection to Hillary is that it uses a quote by her on the front page. Hey but why let little things like facts get in the way of a good beat up, right?

That and that she started it and is the CEO
 
Well, Segnosaur, I think people who take "RationalWiki" seriously are pseudo-skeptical ideologues I wouldn't be surprised to see shooting up some church.
I think the operative word in that statement is "I think". In other words, you have made a statement about RationalWiki based on your beliefs, which does not appear to be rooted in fact.

But since you seem to think RationalWiki=bad, lets look at a few more sources...

How about this comment from one of the former writers?

From: http://www.smh.com.au/business/medi...ll-streets-renegade-blog-20160429-goit31.html
After more than a year writing for the financial website Zero Hedge under the nom de doom of the cult classic's anarchic hero, Lokey's going public.
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"What you are reading at Zero Hedge is nonsense. And you shouldn't support it," Lokey wrote in an e-mail.
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Lokey, who said he wrote much of the site's political content, claimed there was pressure to frame issues in a way he felt was disingenuous.


Or how about this blog from a professor from the University of Houston...

From: http://streetwiseprofessor.com/?p=8947
ZH is an important transmission belt moving the story from Russian propagandists/information warriors to western news consumers. It happens a lot.

Or how about this analysis of Zero Hedge's financial analysis ability:

From: http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/25/investing/zero-hedge-wall-street-blog-finance/index.html
It's safe to say that those who did make investment decisions based on Zero Hedge's bearish views missed or all part of a bull market that has carried the S&P 500 200% higher.

So, former writer says he was under pressure to write misleading articles. Mainstream university professor analyzes the site and finds that the site echos Russian sources. And a financial analysis shows their "predictions" over most of the past decade have been wrong. Yet you seem to cling to the belief that it is a reputable news source.

As for Clinton and the issue of Libyan slaves - do you somehow think Clinton participating in the destruction of that country, knowing of the consequences...
Once again, since you seem to be incapable of even a basic understanding...

THERE WERE NO GOOD SOLUTIONS TO THE SITUATION IN LIBYA!

The civil war was already ongoing when the U.S. got involved. (Fighting began in February 2011; Western involvement started roughly a month later. In that time there were hundreds of casualties, many of whom were not armed combatants.) Without the participation of western military powers, the situation would likely have resulted in a protracted war with extensive casualties. The fact that there were negative consequences to U.S. military action doesn't necessarily mean it still wasn't the best possible solution.

Not really sure how much clearer I can make that.
 
But since you seem to think RationalWiki=bad, lets look at a few more sources...


Had you understood what you are babbling about you could have spared us this drama. Zero Hedge is merely reporting (expanding on the new CNN research on the Libyan slave trade) what we know from the vast Killary email cache available on the wikileaks site. As linked in the article. And these mails are not there because Putin hacked them, but because of FOIA requests by Judicial Watch IIRC. Your source critique is a complete joke, a total embarrassment.
 
THERE WERE NO GOOD SOLUTIONS TO THE SITUATION IN LIBYA!


The "situation" in Libya was created by arming Jihadi cut-throats to the teeth, then when those were opposed by the legitimate government making up ridiculous lies like Gaddafi feeding his army Viagra so they could better rape the civilians, then abusing a UN resolution to bomb the richest country in Africa back into the stone age. A monstrous crime which was perpetrated in cold blood and led to consequences Europe today is immensely suffering from (not to speak of the Libyans left in a Mad Max reality), just like the good colonel has predicted. You are screaming in the wrong direction, pal. Wake up.
 
That and that she started it and is the CEO

There isn't anything on the website saying that, but if true, then that's even more evidence that she's done as a politician because you can't run a Super-Pac and stand for office at the same time, just ask Stephen Colbert!
 
The "situation" in Libya was created by arming Jihadi cut-throats to the teeth, then when those were opposed by the legitimate government making up ridiculous lies like Gaddafi feeding his army Viagra so they could better rape the civilians, then abusing a UN resolution to bomb the richest country in Africa back into the stone age. A monstrous crime which was perpetrated in cold blood and led to consequences Europe today is immensely suffering from (not to speak of the Libyans left in a Mad Max reality), just like the good colonel has predicted. You are screaming in the wrong direction, pal. Wake up.

Seriously? What sort of alternative world do you live it? It had absolutely nothing to do with any of this. It started with protests over house projects being too slow, and when the protesters were poorly treated it sparked civil rights protests based on the Egypt and Tunisia protests. When many of those protesters were arrested and following the arrest of a prominent Civil Rights Lawyer who was pushing for recompense for relatives of a jail massacre in 1996, more Civil Rights protests erupted all over Benghazi and Tripoli. Gaddafi called in the Military, which was to result in the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition calling for the Day of Rage protests on the 17th Feb 2011. Before that happened a protest to free Civil Rights Lawyer Fathi Terbil turned violent with rocks and molotov cocktails being thrown at the police and military.

Gaddafi clamped down on protests announcing a curfew and placing limits of the number of people that could meet. It didn't work and the Arab Spring protesters violently took over Zawiya and Zintan, burning Government buildings and now calling for Gaddafi to step down because of his human right violations.

That lead to the Day of Rage (Feb 17th) with massive human rights protests in cities across Libya. The protesters came under fire from the Libyan armed forces and proceeded to go on a rampage, capturing and burning Government buildings throughout Benghazi and Tripoli. Then on Feb 18th the Protesters stormed the Military positions and forced them to retreat. Some of the Police and Military in Benghazi joined the Protesters, while the rest withdrew and left the area. Over the next few days the protests grew across the country, and there were reports of Libyan troops firing on the crowds from Helicopters which just sparked more protests driving the Military from more towns,

it wasn't until the 27th, ten days after the Day of Rage, that those that would become the Rebels, actually got organised and brought forces together, most of them just ordinary protesters and those that had defected from the military. While there were some Islamists, at the start they weren't outsiders, they were Libyans, but those that joined with the rest of the people, and they didn't have control either.

The war started from there.
 
Seriously. Your trip to wikipedia to read and reproduce parroted Anglo propaganda was unnecessary. People can read that junk themselves. The essence lies somewhere else.

:rolleyes:

You do realise that this forum was around in 2011 and that there are contemporary threads about what was happening at the time? That most of us remember what happened just under 7 years ago? I'm sure you do, because you were in there blaming the US for the Arab Spring at the time.

You also remember that at the time Mubarek's downfall in Egypt was happening, the Tunisian Government had fallen and that people were also protesting in Algeria, Bahrain, Yemen, and Iran as well?

The Libyan Protests were not happening in a vacuum. They were mirrors of what was happening all over the Middle East at the time.
 
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Seriously. Your trip to wikipedia to read and reproduce parroted Anglo propaganda was unnecessary. People can read that junk themselves. The essence lies somewhere else.

There is a reason certain people don't like Wikipedia, and that reason is Wikipedia has standards that make it difficult for kooks to impose their own narrative on its articles. I've run into the same kind of contempt from white nationalists, holocaust deniers, and anti-Israel propagandists.

Maybe at the next staff meeting you can propose a Kremlin run alternative? Like Metapedia only replacing the white nationalist point of view with a putinist anti-Western point of view?
 
it wasn't until the 27th, ten days after the Day of Rage, that those that would become the Rebels, actually got organised and brought forces together, most of them just ordinary protesters and those that had defected from the military. While there were some Islamists, at the start they weren't outsiders, they were Libyans, but those that joined with the rest of the people, and they didn't have control either.

The war started from there.

I wonder where the idea to bring those mercenaries came from??

On March 9, 2011, Sid Blumenthal emailed Clinton about the situation in Libya, with the subject line “H: serious trouble for Libyan rebels. Sid” The email discusses urging leaders of the National Libyan Council (NLC) “to consider hiring private troops (mercenaries) to support, organize, and train the rebel forces in Libya.” Blumenthal adds that “a small number of private troops could turn the battle against Qaddafi’s forces, particularly if they are equipped with sophisticated anti-aircraft weapons.” Clinton asks former aide Huma Abedin to “print for me w/o any identifiers”.

The latest release of Hillary emails
 
If that was the standard, then any presidential candidate that may be losing would be free to commit any crime. If they lose they can't be investigated. If they win there is a risk, but better than not losing.
Wrong. The loser who commits the crime can be prosecuted 'normally' by the justice department, no Special Council required.
 
The "arrogant" Clinton campaign was more like a "cult" than a political campaign.
That startling accusation came ... not front a Republican, but the former chairman of the DNC, Donna Brazile.
"It was a cult," Brazile said of the Clinton campaign. "I felt like it was a cult."
It's all in her book, read all about it, available at all bookstores and magazine shack, soon to be remaindered.

Is Donna Brazile a name that would naturally push a book in the US? Or get a mention here? It's gone right past me in a way that Manafort and Flynn haven't, and Hillary Clinton hit my rader way back.
 
At least Brazile hasn't sunk to flogging her book in Costco yet.
They'll be there before Xmas, mark my words. Anything will make a better return on the space.

Hillary Clinton's timing was better. There's a season for political tomes, and this ain't it. Their only purpose now is presents for relatives you don't like. The Clinton Deranged have snapped it up already and the Trumpen Proletariat are not notoriously big on reading as a pastime.
 
Why on Earth would the Clintons have anything to do with the slave trade? :rolleyes:

Good *********** grief! Honestly CE, did it not even dawn on you the idea of it was as ignorant as the pizza parlor kiddie sex ring?

It doesn't make one lick of sense.
 
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