Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

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The "arrogant" Clinton campaign was more like a "cult" than a political campaign.
That startling accusation came ... not front a Republican, but the former chairman of the DNC, Donna Brazile.
"It was a cult," Brazile said of the Clinton campaign. "I felt like it was a cult."
 
Mycroft said:
More importantly, it's natural to want to talk about gun control after a horrific shooting. This meme that it's somehow disrespectful is just crap made up by conservatives to avoid talking about gun control ever.

It's the moment of silence that takes the place of meaningful discussion that's disrespectful.
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For my part the issue I took wasn't that she talked about gun control per se, but made an asinine statement about silencers. IOW, trying to use the incident to talk about how we need to do something which would not have affected said incident's outcome. It's something that happens far to much in g*n c*ntrol discussions : the need to Do Something(tm) often has people reaching for things which don't actually help, and not discussing measures which might actually help.
 
Did Carter go after Ford after the election for pardoning Nixon? Nope. Did Reagan go after Carter for the failed mission to free hostages? Nope. Did Clinton go after Bush Sr for complicity in letting Iran-Contra slide? Nope. Did Bush Jr go after Clinton for sketchy pardons? Nope. Did Obama go after Bush Jr for misleading the public about Iraq invasion? Nope.

Welcome to Banana Republic USA.

Add: I thought the reason for a Special Counsel is because an administration can't be trusted to investigate itself. Has there ever been a Special Counsel for the purpose of investigating the opposing party?
 
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varwoche said:
Did Carter go after Ford after the election for pardoning Nixon? Nope. Did Reagan go after Carter for the failed mission to free hostages? Nope. Did Clinton go after Bush Sr for complicity in letting Iran-Contra slide? Nope. Did Bush Jr go after Clinton for sketchy pardons? Nope. Did Obama go after Bush Jr for misleading the public about Iraq invasion? Nope.

Welcome to Banana Republic USA.

Add: I thought the reason for a Special Counsel is because an administration can't be trusted to investigate itself. Has there ever been a Special Counsel for the purpose of investigating the opposing party?
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If that was the standard, then any presidential candidate that may be losing would be free to commit any crime. If they lose they can't be investigated. If they win there is a risk, but better than not losing.
 
BobTheCoward said:
If that was the standard, then any presidential candidate that may be losing would be free to commit any crime. If they lose they can't be investigated. If they win there is a risk, but better than not losing.
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There is a special counsel investigating the Trump campaign because Trump fired the FBI directory for investigating the Trump campaign. The losing candidate does not have the power to fire the FBI director. Therefore, I don't see the need in general to have special counsels investigating the losing candidate.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
There is a special counsel investigating the Trump campaign because Trump fired the FBI directory for investigating the Trump campaign. The losing candidate does not have the power to fire the FBI director. Therefore, I don't see the need in general to have special counsels investigating the losing candidate.
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Varwoche simply said "go after."
 
Fast Eddie B said:
.... But it’s ludicrous to say it’s only those on the right keeping Hillary in the news.
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Ludicrous? Listened to any news in the last couple days?

varwoche said:
Did Carter go after Ford after the election for pardoning Nixon? Nope. Did Reagan go after Carter for the failed mission to free hostages? Nope. Did Clinton go after Bush Sr for complicity in letting Iran-Contra slide? Nope. Did Bush Jr go after Clinton for sketchy pardons? Nope. Did Obama go after Bush Jr for misleading the public about Iraq invasion? Nope.

Welcome to Banana Republic USA.

Add: I thought the reason for a Special Counsel is because an administration can't be trusted to investigate itself. Has there ever been a Special Counsel for the purpose of investigating the opposing party?
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TellyKNeasuss said:
There is a special counsel investigating the Trump campaign because Trump fired the FBI directory for investigating the Trump campaign. The losing candidate does not have the power to fire the FBI director. Therefore, I don't see the need in general to have special counsels investigating the losing candidate.
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And because there was an FBI investigation already going on re Russian hacking and other means of interfering in the election. And that turned up connections to the Trump campaign.

As opposed to the latest attempt to again investigate and attack Clinton that is coming from Bannon, Hannity, Trump and the alt-right echo chamber that is calling for this trumped up investigation of the Clinton Foundation and the Uranium One deal.
 
Mycroft said:
Donald Duck-gate?

This is stupid.

And it's just another in a really long line of stupid allegations with no substance to them. Benghazi, Benghazi, e-mails!, Benghazi again, e-mails again! Secret pedophiliac pizza parlors! She's too sick to run!, She screwed Bernie! E-mails again!!!, She's shrill, she's frumpy, she's bad because Bill cheated, isn't she looking sickly?, she's bad because Weinstein donated to their foundation, Oh my god, e-mails again!!!?, it's her fault we have Trump as POTUS because she screwed Bernie!, she's spending too much time out of the public eye, oh my god, she wants publicity again!!!? oh my god, she acted like she was the presumptive nominee way before she won the nomination!!! and now...Donald Duck-gate!!!

This is stupid. So stupid. So very, very stupid.
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It's been like this since the election. "Oh it's worth it just to irritate you libtards". You're going to burn the country you claim to love so much just because they won't let you make fun of gay people anymore or use your religion to justify being a racist or sexist?
Amazing the level of self-deception, the level of disdain for anything different or that dares to challenge the tenuous grasp of superiority..
 
I doubt we would be seeing articles like these if Hillary was President:

Bill Clinton should have resigned.

At the time I, like most Americans, was glad to see Clinton prevail and regarded the whole sordid matter as primarily the fault of congressional Republicans’ excessive scandal-mongering. Now, looking back after the election of Donald Trump, the revelations of massive sexual harassment scandals at Fox News, the stories about Harvey Weinstein and others in the entertainment industry, and the stories about Roy Moore’s pursuit of sexual relationships with teenagers, I think we got it wrong. We argued about perjury and adultery and the meaning of the word “is.” Republicans prosecuted a bad case against a president they’d been investigating for years.

What we should have talked about was men abusing their social and economic power over younger and less powerful women.
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I Believe Juanita.

Of the Clinton accusers, the one who haunts me is Broaddrick. The story she tells about Clinton recalls those we’ve heard about Weinstein. She claimed they had plans to meet in a hotel coffee shop, but at the last minute he asked to come up to her hotel room instead, where he raped her. Five witnesses said she confided in them about the assault right after it happened. It’s true that she denied the rape in an affidavit to Paula Jones’s lawyers, before changing her story when talking to federal investigators. But her explanation, that she didn’t want to go public but couldn’t lie to the F.B.I., makes sense. Put simply, I believe her.
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Quite a few people are indicating that if Bill Clinton had gotten the boot or at least resigned in disgrace, maybe Harvey Weinstein wouldn't have gotten the message that it's okay to rape and sexually harass women and take advantage of the power imbalance in your favor, as long as you wave the liberal flag at every opportunity.
 
Here's a bit of information for dupes who can't understand that informed people not "on the right" have nothing but disgust for Killary, and it's only news because CNN (yup) did some research in the failed (broken) state of Libya:

Libya's Slave Auctions And African Genocide: What Hillary Knew

What she knew has long been known to anybody who cared to look at the emails where she was briefed by Sid Blumenthal about these things. We came, we saw, he died! HAHAHAHA!

Time to lock her up for good.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Here's a bit of information for dupes who can't understand that informed people not "on the right" have nothing but disgust for Killary, and it's only news because CNN (yup) did some research in the failed (broken) state of Libya:

Libya's Slave Auctions And African Genocide: What Hillary Knew

What she knew has long been known to anybody who cared to look at the emails where she was briefed by Sid Blumenthal about these things. We came, we saw, he died! HAHAHAHA!

Time to lock her up for good.
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LOL @ Your obsession.
I guess everyone needs a hobby.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Here's a bit of information for dupes who can't understand that informed people not "on the right" have nothing but disgust for Killary, and it's only news because CNN (yup) did some research in the failed (broken) state of Libya:

Libya's Slave Auctions And African Genocide: What Hillary Knew
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So, you are using as a reference 'zero hedge', a site which is described by RationalWiki as follows:
Zero Hedge is a ******* insane Austrian school finance blog run by two pseudonymous founders who post articles under the name "Tyler Durden," after the character from Fight Club.Wikipedia's W.svg It's essentially apocalypse porn. It has accurately predicted 200 of the last 2 recessions.
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Zero Hedge is not quite the NaturalNews of economics, but not for want of trying. The Hamilton 68 Project notes an enduring popularity of the site among PutinBot Twitter accounts.

As for Clinton and the issue of Libyan slaves.... do you somehow think Clinton was some sort of omnipotent super being who could fix all of the middle east's problems single handed? Yes, she was probably briefed on the situation. But that doesn't mean that she had an easy way to handle the problem, nor does it mean the situation was any better than the alternative (which would be to have Gadaffi stay in power and have a prolonged civil war with the potential of many more civilian casualties.)
 
Well, Segnosaur, I think people who take "RationalWiki" seriously are pseudo-skeptical ideologues I wouldn't be surprised to see shooting up some church.

As for Clinton and the issue of Libyan slaves - do you somehow think Clinton participating in the destruction of that country, knowing of the consequences and cheering the savage murder of its leader, can somehow be excused by her not being omnipotent and other rats like Sarkozy being prominent drivers of that crime against humanity?
 
Childlike Empress said:
Well, Segnosaur, I think people who take "RationalWiki" seriously are pseudo-skeptical ideologues I wouldn't be surprised to see shooting up some church.

As for Clinton and the issue of Libyan slaves - do you somehow think Clinton participating in the destruction of that country, knowing of the consequences and cheering the savage murder of its leader, can somehow be excused by her not being omnipotent and other rats like Sarkozy being prominent drivers of that crime against humanity?
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Of all the hilariously insane sources you provide, that one may take the cake.
 
theprestige said:
If Hillary Clinton is done, what's the deal with her new Super-PAC?
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I don't think Onward Together is a Super Pac for Hillary to run for office.

Do you?
 
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