Basis of Immortality?

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I think, going to above level, shall be like, losing our individuality and getting our universality. Although, it can be bit odd to discuss but I feel understanding of real/absolute sense of Immortality may not possible without it.


Conditions now are not the same as they were at the time of the Big Bang. If they were, we could not exist.
 
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Conditions now are not the same as they were at the time of the Big Bang. If they were, we could not exist.

True, then any sense of discussing or thinking about Immorality other than this prime form i.e in current gross form?
 
I can't say, how much it can be relevant to OP:

0 X 1 = 0

1 X 1 = 1
so on.

Say for example,
0' is soul or some energetic form.

Ist '1' is we and 2nd '1' is our Clone.

In above, '0' and '1' is immortal.
 
Of course all you have to do, as usual, is redefine life and redefine mortality, and redefine immortality, and throw in some mystical nonsense, cloak it in impenetrable language that can mean anything you want, and then you can ignore everything anyone says to contradict. A typical Kumar thread.

Of course we're immortal because in some sense some "we" are in some sense "immortal." Life is so simple when you just barge right through.
 
Based on what? Proton decay has never been detected. It's one of the grand failures of scientific theory along with the search for ether wind.


I guess I misunderstood. I'm way out of my depth on such topics.
 
Of course we're immortal because in some sense some "we" are in some sense "immortal." Life is so simple when you just barge right through.

Probably, evolutionary consequences may be responsible for biologically mortality and immortality.
 
I guess I misunderstood. I'm way out of my depth on such topics.

Not completely. From wikipedia:

Both concepts have been the focus of major experimental physics efforts since the early 1980s. To date, all attempts to observe these events have failed. Best results come from the super-Kamiokande water Cherenkov radiation detector in Japan. 2015 analysis gave half-life higher than 1.67×1034 years via positron decay and 2012 analysis gave 1.08×1034 years via antimuon decay, close to a supersymmetry (SUSY) prediction of 1034–1036 years. An upgraded version, Hyper-Kamiokande, probably will have sensitivity 5–10 times better than super-Kamiokande.​

Proton decay is predicted by some Grand Unified and Super Symmetric theories. To date, none of these have gained enough experimental evidence to replace the Standard Model even though the Standard Model has known problems. But if proton decay were detected by an even larger experiment then this would provide some proof for these models. So, proton decay is still a possibility, but that is all it is.
 
Yes but I think. ghosts/souls, even if possible, can not be in materialistic or physical form. These can either be in some energy form
No, this is completely impossible. It can be disproved.

or illusionary emotional form or in image form.?

There's nothing unusual about hallucinations.
 
Hello,
Greetings!

Just got the initiation to check it.

What can be the basis of our Immortality directly or indirectly? Can it be:-

At current/gross level (Observable)

1. Our Clones

2. Our Children

3. Our physical remains after death--bones, DNA etc.

4. Our work done(good & bad)

5. Or Otherwise?

At Prime Level (non-observable)

1. Our prime energy form

2. Our pure/impure soul or ghosts

3. Our reincarnations

4. Or otherwise?

You may discuss these, logically or scientifically.

Best wishes.


Kumar, since long experience tells us that you have already reached your own conclusion, and that nothing anyone posts will dissuade you from it, please go ahead and tell us what it is. This will save us all a lot of time and reduce electron waste. Then we can start discussing your conclusion. Thanks.
 
Hello,
Greetings!

Just got the initiation to check it.

What can be the basis of our Immortality directly or indirectly? Can it be:-

At current/gross level (Observable)

1. Our Clones

2. Our Children

3. Our physical remains after death--bones, DNA etc.

4. Our work done(good & bad)

5. Or Otherwise?

At Prime Level (non-observable)

1. Our prime energy form

2. Our pure/impure soul or ghosts

3. Our reincarnations

4. Or otherwise?

You may discuss these, logically or scientifically.

Best wishes.

Depends entirely on your definition of 'immortality'.

And, of course, the last four are entirely speculative.

Hans
 
I can't say, how much it can be relevant to OP:

0 X 1 = 0

1 X 1 = 1
so on.

Say for example,
0' is soul or some energetic form.

Ist '1' is we and 2nd '1' is our Clone.

In above, '0' and '1' is immortal.

Nonsense.

Hans
 

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