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Merged The Roy Moore Batcrap Crazy Remark Thread/Roy Moore Is Done

Arcade22 said:
I don't see how him "chasing after teenage girls" like this is evidence of anything other than he can behave responsibly.

I mean he asked the mother of one for permission to date her daughter. Seriously who does that? If they are old enough to have sex then they are old enough to choose who they want to date on their own.
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Body of work.

The man is a bible thumping moralist who believes he is on the scene to judge (literally in his case) other people's "immoral" behavior and is a homophobe to boot.

I don't wish the man any ill-will, I just wish a truck would run over his *********** head.
 
Republicans: Bill Clinton preyed on a young intern, (I believe Monica was 23), it was perverse.

So Moore fondled a 14 yr old when he was 32, he didn't force her. Mary was a teenager when Jesus was born.

The hypocrisy train that knows no bounds keeps rolling down the tracks.
 
On the local radio last night, a DJ said he was going to Play Roy Moore's new campaign song, and put on a recording of Maruice Chevallier singing "Thank Heaven For Little Girls". Nasty.
 
TheL8Elvis said:
I'm sorry you decided to focus on my poor examples, rather than actually discussing your reasoning.

Many other better examples are listed right above.

I've hilited the questions that appear to be more relevant to the discussion.

Additional;y, it would be nice if you can you expand on your reasoning ? For example, why would they all lie ? And why now ? Do you believe that the people they claim to have told about this decades ago, who corroborate their stories, are also lying ?
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Based on what I've read in the media.

People lie about odd things all the time.

Perhaps in a few more days more information will come to light about the incident with the 14 year old girl, or lack thereof.

Or maybe more recent incidents will come to light?

Moore was on thin ice in the election anyway.

I think if no more info comes forth, then this will remain a "they said/he said" case and it will probably damage Moore.
Moore will probably lose and we won't hear anything else about the incidents.
 
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Trump warned the crowd that Moore would be vulnerable to losing to the Democratic candidate in the general election while Strange would sail through to victory.

“Roy has a very good chance of not winning in the general election,” Trump said. “Roy is going to have a hard time, but I will be backing him if he wins.”
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Trump was prophetic...
 
logger said:
I see this from many on the left. An allegation that is no where near proved somehow makes what Clinton actually did seem insignificant. Got it.

Consenting adult, lol. It’s a classic case of a superior taking advantage. Not to mention some very credible women claiming the predator in chief raped them. This Roy Moore issue has no proof what so ever. Maybe that will change.
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This is just weird.

Both men did some things that would generally be considered personal, and really not anyone else's business. Both men are also accused, without evidence beyond the accusations themselves, of having done some pretty bad stuff.

There's a lot of symmetry here.
 
Max Boot calls for the death of the Republican party.

The key words here, echoed by Republican senators, are “if these allegations are true.” Well, of course, no one wants to see anyone punished for false allegations. But how is their truth or falsity to be established? It is too late for a court case, unless Moore is foolish enough to sue The Washington Post for libel — and that would take years to resolve. The Post account is full of detailed corroboration from 30 people, including the victims, who spoke on the record. Moore offers vague denials and non-sequiturs about how he is supposedly a devoted family man.

By treating this as a “mere allegation … from many years ago,” the Republican establishment is in effect giving Moore a pass — just as they gave Trump a pass after he confessed on videotape to sexual assault. So far only a few honorable Republicans, including Mitt Romney, John McCain and John Kasich, recognize that the presumption of innocence applies to criminal defendants, not political candidates.

This episode is the sorry culmination of two trends that have disfigured the conservative movement beyond all recognition: contempt for the facts and desire to win at all costs. Republicans are increasingly reliant on “alternative facts” manufactured by the likes of Fox News and Breitbart, which claim that global warming isn’t real and neither is the Russian hack of the Democratic National Committee. The real scandal, they tell us, is the Steele dossier paid for by the Democrats in an attempt to uncover Trump’s Russian connections. Or is it the evidence-free claim that Obama supposedly wiretapped Trump?*

In the final analysis, no indictment of their candidate will convince the faithful. As Trump once said, “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.” Or, more to the point, Roy Moore could molest a 14-year-old girl and not lose votes. Because for Republican partisans, their opponents are “the forces of evil,” and anything is preferable to that. Even Donald Trump. Even Roy Moore. So in ostensibly fighting evil, Republicans have become complicit in it.

This is a party that does not deserve to survive.
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pgwenthold said:
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/928738082576326656

I don't know who Rick Wilson is, but, yeah....
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Does it make sense to call anyone except the 14 year old a "victim"? I haven't followed this closely, but my understanding is that all of the other women were above the legal age of consent, and that no non-consensual sex occurred.

So.....victim? Of what?

The 14 year old is, obviously, a separate case. Her allegations are indeed very serious.

ETA: I'm no fan of Moore, but I'm just interested in the way these things are spun.
 
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:boggled: I find it odd that some think a man in his 30s going after teenagers is okay just because he didn't rape them and in some cases asked for parental permission.

Does this mean 30 something men can now flood Alabama and ask out 14 year olds? I suspect a great many will object when its their daughter that much older men are perving on.
 
Travis said:
:boggled: I find it odd that some think a man in his 30s going after teenagers is okay just because he didn't rape them and in some cases asked for parental permission.

Does this mean 30 something men can now flood Alabama and ask out 14 year olds? I suspect a great many will object when its their daughter that much older men are perving on.
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Amazing to see the party that wrote anti-trans bathroom bills to “protect young girls from predatory pedophiles” is now defending Roy Moore.
 
Meadmaker said:
Does it make sense to call anyone except the 14 year old a "victim"? I haven't followed this closely, but my understanding is that all of the other women were above the legal age of consent, and that no non-consensual sex occurred.

So.....victim? Of what?

The 14 year old is, obviously, a separate case. Her allegations are indeed very serious.

ETA: I'm no fan of Moore, but I'm just interested in the way these things are spun.
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One must also consider state laws vary. A 30 yr old with a 17 or younger is considered statutory rape in some states. Does that make a difference?

Also let's not leave out the fact Moore picked up this 14 yr old in the courthouse he worked in. That is unethical on its face. And he met her a block from her house, he didn't go to the door. That is pretty good evidence he knew better.

Just out of curiosity Meadmaker, if we went back to the old Bill Clinton threads, would we find you condemning Bill Clinton for his unethical consensual sex with a 23 yr old Monica?


Stacko said:
Amazing to see the party that wrote anti-trans bathroom bills to “protect young girls from predatory pedophiles” is now defending Roy Moore.
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That too ^.
 
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