Split Thread Scorpion's Spiritualism

[Scorpion]

As for your brake rod, vibration shook it loose.

As I have said, the one thing I know 100% for a FACT is that someone unscrewed the nut on the end of my brake rod. It was a mechanical impossibility for it to have come loose. It was very hard for me to do it up again with my fingers.

 

[abaddon]

As I have said, the one thing I know 100% for a FACT is that someone unscrewed the nut on the end of my brake rod. It was a mechanical impossibility for it to have come loose. It was very hard for me to do it up again with my fingers.

And you are wrong. You appear to have decided that it was a deliberate act of sabotage for no reason other that you found it difficult to reconnect. Well, yippee. Welcome to the wonderful world of practical mechanics. Lots of things come apart easily but are total botches to reassemble.

It is elaborated in Murphy's corollaries

Any instrument when dropped will roll into the least accessible corner.
Corollary: It will not roll if it falls on shag carpeting and is small enough to hide.
If you drop a tool or a part it will roll to the exact center underneath your car thus extending your repair enjoyment.

 

[Scorpion]

And you are wrong. You appear to have decided that it was a deliberate act of sabotage for no reason other that you found it difficult to reconnect. Well, yippee. Welcome to the wonderful world of practical mechanics. Lots of things come apart easily but are total botches to reassemble.

It is elaborated in Murphy's corollaries

I went to the police and complained someone had undone my brake and I showed them the brake rod. The oil on the brake rod was wiped off where the adjusting nut had been wound back, and there was about an inch of clean rod showing. The nut was extremely stiff, and I found it hard to do it up without a spanner.

The brake was working perfectly when I rode to the street where I parked, and when I came back it was completely undone.
It is a mechanical impossibility that it could have come loose.

I believe the spirit world warned me to check the bike, and I am about 60% sure of that. But I know for a 100% fact that the rod was undone.

 

[Pixel42]

I believe the spirit world warned me to check the bike, and I am about 60% sure of that.

Why? There is absolutely no good reason to think that, and many good reasons to think otherwise.

 

[Scorpion]

Weeellll. I kind of wonder what Scorpion would make of Michel H's thread.

I am 80% sure I have experienced thought broadcasting as a reality.
My mind was giving off thoughts telepathically.

I know that thought broadcasting is the perception of schizophrenics but I have logical reasons to believe an office girl could read my thoughts.
I have told this story before, possibly on this thread.

The girl was commenting on what I was doing, and she told me four facts I did not know.

On one occasion I was working on a circuit board and the girls voice said,
"it must be the regulator" at that time I had not noticed there was a regulator on the board, so I looked and there was one. I changed it but the board did not work, then she said "Then it must be the other regulator" I took another look at the board and found another regulator so I changed that too and the board worked.

On another occasion I went to the shelf to get a piece of equipment to repair and there was a new gas analyzer. I thought that should be easy it probably just needs tuning so I picked it up and took it to my bench. It was about the size of a microwave oven and I could not see the back.
When I put it down on my bench the girls voice wafted from the open office door and she said " He thinks he can fix that easily but he can't because the inlet pipe is broken and they are out of stock." I tipped the machine toward me and saw she was right. the pipe was broken. I then realized she had told me they were out of stock and I did not know that because I had never had to change one before. So I went to the stores and sure enough they were out of stock. That is two facts she told me that I did not know, and she seemed to know what I was thinking.

On another occasion I got another smaller gas analyzer and I blew down the tube to operate the micro switch, but it did not work, so I changed the switch and it still did not work. The girls voice said, "He thinks that's a pressure switch but its not its a vacuum switch." I sucked on the pipe and the switch worked.
Up until then I had never encountered a vacuum switch as all the other models were pressure switches. That's another fact she told me that I did not know.

She knew what I was thinking and talked about it in the office, and the office door was open so I could hear her talking.

There were other incidents that made me believe she was telepathically reading my mind, but they did not tell me facts I did not know so I discount them.

 

[Scorpion]

Why? There is absolutely no good reason to think that, and many good reasons to think otherwise.

It was the way the idea of checking the brakes popped into my head.

 

[Pixel42]

It was the way the idea of checking the brakes popped into my head.

You mean in exactly the same way everybody has ideas pop into their heads when their subconscious thought processes draw something they have noticed to the attention of their conscious awareness?

Why would such a perfectly natural, mundane, everyday event make you reach for a supernatural explanation?

And yes, you have told that story before here, and you're unlikely to persuade any more people of the reality of telepathy with it this time than you did the last time.

 

[Darat]

I am bringing back post 348 for further consideration, as it is one of the reasons I am 80% sure telepathy exists.

I remember another experience that convinced me that esp exists.
I once had a friend that lived down the road, and one night I was very upset about something and I was having what might be described as a panic attack. I think it could have put me in a mental hospital that night if no one had helped me. But my friend sensed something was wrong with me, and he came running up the road. I did not answer the bell because I was too upset so he got the landlady to let him in and he came running in and said "are you alright". He then sat with me and talked me down. All I needed was a friend to talk to me and I was ok, and that is the only time it ever happened.
He did not make a habit of bursting in on me, and I did not make a habit of having a breakdown. So I have always remembered that incident as evidence to me that some people have esp.

What's that got to do with your spiritualist beliefs?

 

[Scorpion]

What's that got to do with your spiritualist beliefs?

Its evidence of telepathy.

 

[abaddon]

I am 80% sure I have experienced thought broadcasting as a reality.
My mind was giving off thoughts telepathically.

OK so you are off to Michel H's threads and KotA's threads to set up a test, right? All three of you are participating in this forum, here is your opportunity to prove your claims. Surely you would jump at the chance with your fellow telepaths, right? Right?

I know that thought broadcasting is the perception of schizophrenics but I have logical reasons to believe an office girl could read my thoughts.
I have told this story before, possibly on this thread.

Yes. You have.

The girl was commenting on what I was doing, and she told me four facts I did not know.

Bet I know four facts that you do not. Bet you know four facts that I do not. Bet everybody does.

On one occasion I was working on a circuit board and the girls voice said,
"it must be the regulator" at that time I had not noticed there was a regulator on the board, so I looked and there was one. I changed it but the board did not work, then she said "Then it must be the other regulator" I took another look at the board and found another regulator so I changed that too and the board worked.

Sounds to me like you made two mistakes and resented being corrected by some jumped up "mere chick". Regulators are clearly identified and clearly identifiable. I suggest that you simply got the hump for missing something so obvious.

On another occasion I went to the shelf to get a piece of equipment to repair and there was a new gas analyzer. I thought that should be easy it probably just needs tuning so I picked it up and took it to my bench. It was about the size of a microwave oven and I could not see the back.
When I put it down on my bench the girls voice wafted from the open office door and she said " He thinks he can fix that easily but he can't because the inlet pipe is broken and they are out of stock." I tipped the machine toward me and saw she was right. the pipe was broken. I then realized she had told me they were out of stock and I did not know that because I had never had to change one before. So I went to the stores and sure enough they were out of stock. That is two facts she told me that I did not know, and she seemed to know what I was thinking.

That is called an "overheard conversation". Nothing in there that is in any way supernatural. You simply resent the very concept that this woman is better than you.

On another occasion I got another smaller gas analyzer and I blew down the tube to operate the micro switch, but it did not work, so I changed the switch and it still did not work. The girls voice said, "He thinks that's a pressure switch but its not its a vacuum switch." I sucked on the pipe and the switch worked.
Up until then I had never encountered a vacuum switch as all the other models were pressure switches. That's another fact she told me that I did not know.

And now you are peeved that this woman is MORE EXPERIENCED THAN YOU.

She knew what I was thinking and talked about it in the office, and the office door was open so I could hear her talking.

Nope. You overheard through the open office door. I have been in the position of hiring and firing. I am aware of the undercurrent that runs through the staff when a person who is utterly incompetent finds everyone but themselves to blame. I have extended the offer of continued employment and assistance with whatever their issue might be. Most of them reject it. Some few accept such aid as offered. But I have a business to run. Guess who keeps their job and who does not?

And guess what else. I have had to take staff aside and explain the situation of the afflicted to them and why it is important to NOT have any gossip hanging around that can be overheard by anyone. And guess what else. I have stood by every single one that wanted to get out of that rut to the extent of funding their therapy gratis.

So do not attempt to feed me that baloney.

There were other incidents that made me believe she was telepathically reading my mind, but they did not tell me facts I did not know so I discount them.

Now it is incidents without facts. Really?

 

[Darat]

Its evidence of telepathy.

What's that got to do with your beliefs that are the topic of this thread?

 

[Scorpion]

What's that got to do with your beliefs that are the topic of this thread?

A line from post 1 of this thread..
'consciousness is stored in a higher vessel than the brain'


The existence of telepathy would go some way to supporting the idea that thought is separate from the brain. It would change the scientific paradigm.

 

[abaddon]

A line from post 1 of this thread..
'consciousness is stored in a higher vessel than the brain'


The existence of telepathy would go some way to supporting the idea that thought is separate from the brain. It would change the scientific paradigm.

No. For starters, the claim that 'consciousness is stored in a higher vessel than the brain' has no evidence whatsoever. Starting with a fake premise is getting you nowhere.

Provide evidence that any such "vessel" actually exists. You can't. Nobody has ever done so.

 

[turingtest]

I went to the police and complained someone had undone my brake and I showed them the brake rod. The oil on the brake rod was wiped off where the adjusting nut had been wound back, and there was about an inch of clean rod showing. The nut was extremely stiff, and I found it hard to do it up without a spanner.

The brake was working perfectly when I rode to the street where I parked, and when I came back it was completely undone.
It is a mechanical impossibility that it could have come loose.

I believe the spirit world warned me to check the bike, and I am about 60% sure of that. But I know for a 100% fact that the rod was undone.

What you're 100% sure of is completely irrelevant to the topic of this thread, which leaves you only a little better than half-convinced of what is relevant. And most of that is either from personal experience (which I'm sure you'll understand isn't very convincing to anyone else) or what you've been told by mediums and the teachings of "Silver Birch" (or whatever the name was, can't be bothered to check). And as Pixel has said, that kind of evidence- the teachings- is no better, no different, than what you don't find convincing in the case of Islam, so I'm not sure why you think anyone else should buy it.

 

[turingtest]

I am 80% sure I have experienced thought broadcasting as a reality.
My mind was giving off thoughts telepathically.

I know that thought broadcasting is the perception of schizophrenics but I have logical reasons to believe an office girl could read my thoughts.
I have told this story before, possibly on this thread.

The girl was commenting on what I was doing, and she told me four facts I did not know.

On one occasion I was working on a circuit board and the girls voice said,
"it must be the regulator" at that time I had not noticed there was a regulator on the board, so I looked and there was one. I changed it but the board did not work, then she said "Then it must be the other regulator" I took another look at the board and found another regulator so I changed that too and the board worked.

On another occasion I went to the shelf to get a piece of equipment to repair and there was a new gas analyzer. I thought that should be easy it probably just needs tuning so I picked it up and took it to my bench. It was about the size of a microwave oven and I could not see the back.
When I put it down on my bench the girls voice wafted from the open office door and she said " He thinks he can fix that easily but he can't because the inlet pipe is broken and they are out of stock." I tipped the machine toward me and saw she was right. the pipe was broken. I then realized she had told me they were out of stock and I did not know that because I had never had to change one before. So I went to the stores and sure enough they were out of stock. That is two facts she told me that I did not know, and she seemed to know what I was thinking.

On another occasion I got another smaller gas analyzer and I blew down the tube to operate the micro switch, but it did not work, so I changed the switch and it still did not work. The girls voice said, "He thinks that's a pressure switch but its not its a vacuum switch." I sucked on the pipe and the switch worked.
Up until then I had never encountered a vacuum switch as all the other models were pressure switches. That's another fact she told me that I did not know.

She knew what I was thinking and talked about it in the office, and the office door was open so I could hear her talking.

There were other incidents that made me believe she was telepathically reading my mind, but they did not tell me facts I did not know so I discount them.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see how someone telling you things you didn't know- and so couldn't be thinking- is evidence that she was reading your mind. The only thing even slightly relevant is the "he thinks it will be easy" bit, and that sounds like an opinion that doesn't require telepathy. As for anything else- well, an open door works both ways, doesn't it? For example, she didn't have to read your mind to know you were blowing in the tube (and thinking "pressure switch"); if she could hear you doing it, it would have been simple deduction to know what you were thinking.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I am 80% sure I have experienced thought broadcasting as a reality.
My mind was giving off thoughts telepathically.

I know that thought broadcasting is the perception of schizophrenics but I have logical reasons to believe an office girl could read my thoughts.
I have told this story before, possibly on this thread.

The girl was commenting on what I was doing, and she told me four facts I did not know.

On one occasion I was working on a circuit board and the girls voice said,
"it must be the regulator" at that time I had not noticed there was a regulator on the board, so I looked and there was one. I changed it but the board did not work, then she said "Then it must be the other regulator" I took another look at the board and found another regulator so I changed that too and the board worked.

On another occasion I went to the shelf to get a piece of equipment to repair and there was a new gas analyzer. I thought that should be easy it probably just needs tuning so I picked it up and took it to my bench. It was about the size of a microwave oven and I could not see the back.
When I put it down on my bench the girls voice wafted from the open office door and she said " He thinks he can fix that easily but he can't because the inlet pipe is broken and they are out of stock." I tipped the machine toward me and saw she was right. the pipe was broken. I then realized she had told me they were out of stock and I did not know that because I had never had to change one before. So I went to the stores and sure enough they were out of stock. That is two facts she told me that I did not know, and she seemed to know what I was thinking.

On another occasion I got another smaller gas analyzer and I blew down the tube to operate the micro switch, but it did not work, so I changed the switch and it still did not work. The girls voice said, "He thinks that's a pressure switch but its not its a vacuum switch." I sucked on the pipe and the switch worked.
Up until then I had never encountered a vacuum switch as all the other models were pressure switches. That's another fact she told me that I did not know.

She knew what I was thinking and talked about it in the office, and the office door was open so I could hear her talking.

There were other incidents that made me believe she was telepathically reading my mind, but they did not tell me facts I did not know so I discount them.

That first story appears to be a story which demonstrates that she couldn't read your mind, the second one which demonstrates that she has eyes, and the third one which demonstrates that she has ears.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

A line from post 1 of this thread..
'consciousness is stored in a higher vessel than the brain'


The existence of telepathy would go some way to supporting the idea that thought is separate from the brain. It would change the scientific paradigm.

Assuming for the moment such an event occurred, You would have made zero progress in proving the spirit realm exists.

Unfortunately, Thought is a byproduct of the brain it does not exist independent of a mind.

 

[Scorpion]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see how someone telling you things you didn't know- and so couldn't be thinking- is evidence that she was reading your mind. The only thing even slightly relevant is the "he thinks it will be easy" bit, and that sounds like an opinion that doesn't require telepathy. As for anything else- well, an open door works both ways, doesn't it? For example, she didn't have to read your mind to know you were blowing in the tube (and thinking "pressure switch"); if she could hear you doing it, it would have been simple deduction to know what you were thinking.

The point is she was reading my mind the whole time. But all the other times she gave me no information that enabled me to know it was really happening.

I can remember some of those occasions that stood out in my mind, forexample. I was trying to keep my mind together by doing a mantra given to me by Guru Raj Ananda, and she said what I was thinking and told other members of staff what my mantra was. But the guru had told us not to tell anyone our mantra, and I never had. So to hear her discussing it was disconcerting. But I could not be sure if I was just having paranoid hallucinations and she was not saying anything I could be sure of.
But the four facts she told me, that I recounted in my previous post were evidence to me that she was doing it.

On one occasion I walked to the open office door and stood outside round the corner, out of sight. The girl calmly came out and shut the door in my face.
Someone in the office said to her "If you do that he will know"

This all went on for eighteen months, until I finally walked out of the job and went sick, because I was totally stressed out.
I don't know why she did this to me and I don't know how, but the four facts she told me are enough for me to be sure she did it.

I subsequently tried to get the manageress to admit what had been done to me, but all I got was threats of charges of harassment and nuisance calls .

 

[Scorpion]

Assuming for the moment such an event occurred, You would have made zero progress in proving the spirit realm exists.

Unfortunately, Thought is a byproduct of the brain it does not exist independent of a mind.

It is my experience that telepathy does exist, and proving it would give cause for pause to the idea that consciousness is dependent on the brain.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

It is my experience that telepathy does exist, and proving it would give cause for pause to the idea that consciousness is dependent on the brain.

And you have also told us you are schizophrenic. One of the symptoms of schizophrenia is thinking that you can read minds, or that others can read yours.

Are you of the opinion that schizophrenia is actually misdiagnosed telepathy?
Or do you believe that you are both schizophrenic, AND have mental powers?

If the latter, do you realize that it might not be possible for someone who is schizophrenic to tell the difference?
And that actual telepathy can be tested? If communication by thought alone is possible, it should be able to demonstrate that actual communication takes place, even if we don't understand the mechanism.

If your answer is that it only works sometimes, or actively avoids being tested, or (as I think you've said before) telepathy was used by government officials to brainwash you, so they won't admit that it's real... Do you see how impartial bystanders would sooner think that those thoughts are the result of your condition, rather than self-hiding superpowers?