Split Thread Scorpion's Spiritualism

[turingtest]

Find something wrong with your bike. Think to check your bike. Credit spirits, rather than having the teeniest bit of common sense.

Which is kind of sad, isn't it? Scorpion's been trying to tell us he arrived at his conclusions through (personal) evidence and reasoning; and yet, when a situation arises where actual reasoning comes into play on his part, he hastens to pass the credit on to the spirits.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I put the kettle on. I've got one that goes on the stove, rather than an electric one. After it had been heating for a while it started to whistle, and I took it off the heat. I think the spirits made me think to take it off the heat.

 

[Scorpion]

As I said, I first thought the clutch cable was sticking, but then it popped into my mind to check the bike over. At that time I had no idea the bike had been tampered with.

Whatever put that into my mind may have saved me from injury or death.

 

[turingtest]

As I said, I first thought the clutch cable was sticking, but then it popped into my mind to check the bike over. At that time I had no idea the bike had been tampered with.

Whatever put that into my mind may have saved me from injury or death.

So you've said. My question is why do you think so little of yourself that you don't believe you yourself could have put it into your own mind to follow an obvious course of action- checking the bike over after finding something wrong with it? It's not like you had no prompt, is it?

And whether it was tampered with or not is irrelevant to that question.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

As I said, I first thought the clutch cable was sticking, but then it popped into my mind to check the bike over. At that time I had no idea the bike had been tampered with.

Whatever put that into my mind may have saved me from injury or death.

You might want to save this story for an audience that doesn't contain anyone who's ever ridden a motorbike.

Just saying...

 

[Darat]

Yea ! fifty years of the various forms of schizophrenia have taught me nothing.
Maybe, as you suggested I deserve fifty years of paralysis. That would teach me not to believe in the ultimate good. Because I obviously have not suffered enough to learn to think pessimistically like you.

You are the one that has a pessimistic view of the world, you are the one who claims we have to suffer.

It is your God that has decided we all must suffer.

It is your beliefs that means the child must suffering agony for all its curtailed life.

 

[The Shrike]

My question is why do you think so little of yourself that you don't believe you yourself could have put it into your own mind to follow an obvious course of action- checking the bike over after finding something wrong with it? It's not like you had no prompt, is it?

Indeed. Scorpion you seem to be searching for and settling on the least likely explanation for these events:

1) Brake line is loose - "Someone tried to kill me."
2) You noticed loose brake line - "Spirits sent me a subliminal message to save my life."

 

[Scorpion]

Indeed. Scorpion you seem to be searching for and settling on the least likely explanation for these events:

1) Brake line is loose - "Someone tried to kill me."

The brake rod had been deliberately unscrewed about an inch. They probably used a spanner because I did not have one and it was very hard to screw it back using my fingers.

 

[Scorpion]

You are the one that has a pessimistic view of the world, you are the one who claims we have to suffer.

It is your God that has decided we all must suffer.

It is your beliefs that means the child must suffering agony for all its curtailed life.

The following is what I said in post 11 of this thread.



There may be a purpose in all experience, no matter how harsh it seems from a human point of view. Hard experience strengthens the soul in the same way that the struggle between predators and pray forces evolution in both.
The spirit world says that God remains above all this and we ultimately evolve spiritually toward reuniting with him in a state of grace, at which time our sufferings will seem a small price to pay. This takes place over many, many incarnations, not just one human lifetime

 

[Andy_Ross]

Rod operated? what bike was it?

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Rod operated? what bike was it?

My 2017 Yamaha TW200 has a rod-operated rear brake:

Stipulated it is still basically a 1987 design.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Didn't realise that they still made them.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

The following is what I said in post 11 of this thread.



There may be a purpose in all experience, no matter how harsh it seems from a human point of view. Hard experience strengthens the soul in the same way that the struggle between predators and pray forces evolution in both.
The spirit world says that God remains above all this and we ultimately evolve spiritually toward reuniting with him in a state of grace, at which time our sufferings will seem a small price to pay. This takes place over many, many incarnations, not just one human lifetime

So basically a jambalaya of woo, I have to say none of that makes any sense to me and it, of course, begs multiple citations.

 

[The Shrike]

The brake rod had been deliberately unscrewed about an inch.

Or or or - maybe it worked itself loose. Why jump to the conclusion that a person deliberately did that? Had you received credible death threats then by people who knew your bike and your activity patterns?

I've lost count of how many times I've discovered a flat tire that was perfectly fine when I parked the vehicle. Does that mean someone deliberately keeps following me around the country and letting the air out of my tires?

 

[Nakani]

As I said, I first thought the clutch cable was sticking, but then it popped into my mind to check the bike over. At that time I had no idea the bike had been tampered with.

Whatever put that into my mind may have saved me from injury or death.

With no disembodied voice whispering in your ear or hovering apparition, what would jump you to the conclusion that your thoughts are not your own?

I bet it is comforting to think someone is looking out for you. The thought that it is just me against the universe is too much for most.

 

[Darat]

The following is what I said in post 11 of this thread.



There may be a purpose in all experience, no matter how harsh it seems from a human point of view. Hard experience strengthens the soul in the same way that the struggle between predators and pray forces evolution in both.
The spirit world says that God remains above all this and we ultimately evolve spiritually toward reuniting with him in a state of grace, at which time our sufferings will seem a small price to pay. This takes place over many, many incarnations, not just one human lifetime

Why you keep repeating the reason why the 9 month pregnant woman being repeatedly raped by multiple soldiers is good for her I really don't know.

It is evident that you try to avoid the implications of your beliefs.

You have a belief system that excuses the most barbaric suffering of humanity, indeed it goes beyond excusing it it elevates suffering to a necessity.

 

[Scorpion]

Rod operated? what bike was it?

Its so long ago I can't remember the make, but it was Japanese and rod operated. It was a 400cc and I think it was a Suzuki.

IT WAS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE ROD TO HAVE COME UNDONE BY ITSELF.

 

[Scorpion]

Why you keep repeating the reason why the 9 month pregnant woman being repeatedly raped by multiple soldiers is good for her I really don't know.

It is evident that you try to avoid the implications of your beliefs.

You have a belief system that excuses the most barbaric suffering of humanity, indeed it goes beyond excusing it it elevates suffering to a necessity.

There you go again, coming up with the worst scenarios you can think of . But once again you are citing an example caused by men's actions. God may allow such things but everything is accountable, and the rapists will pay for it in the end. Injustices done to individuals will be compensated.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I've had a rod operated rear brake tampered with, back when I was at school (sixth form, my first bike). It's not hard to undo or do up a rear brake of that type, you depress the brake pedal with your hand and as you release it hold the brake actuator in place. This takes the pressure off the threaded brake adjuster and you can hand adjust it without much trouble. Of course the person who did that didn't also play with my clutch to warn me..... (Incidentally: Clutch cable loosened, clutch won't disengage and bike stalls when you try and select a gear; clutch cable tightened, clutch won't engage and bike goes nowhere.)

I've also had a rear brake strip it's thread under braking which lead to a sudden loss off brakes. Luckily bikes always have two separate braking systems and seventy five percent of the braking is at the front. Provided the brake adjuster hasn't been replaced with non standard parts it's pretty much impossible for them to come loose accidentally as the end of the adjuster is curved to locate against the part it pulls against.

 

[Scorpion]

Or or or - maybe it worked itself loose. Why jump to the conclusion that a person deliberately did that? Had you received credible death threats then by people who knew your bike and your activity patterns?

I've lost count of how many times I've discovered a flat tire that was perfectly fine when I parked the vehicle. Does that mean someone deliberately keeps following me around the country and letting the air out of my tires?

I stated already the brake was mechanically undone not loose. Its one thing I know for a 100% fact.

I could write a whole story , but it's off topic and maybe I should start a thread about it in the conspiracy theories section. Besides its completely unbelievable and it involves a feud between me and a powerful family who had friends in the local police force.

There were three attempts to kill me by tampering with my bike, on the other two occasions someone stuck a nail in my back tyre, and I was once punched and knocked unconscious. I went to the police about it and they laughed at me.