Kelly to the rescue!

Spindrift said:
Kelly's house cleaning continued with ouster of Schiller. Kelly has solidified his position and if Trump listen to him sometimes, he could survive four years.

If Kelly can get Trump to stop tweeting he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for preventing war with North Korea and/or Iran.
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And now a month and half later it turns out Kelly is just another mouthpiece looking to cover for Trump's inability to handle the simplest tasks. Kelly simply fell in the swamp and drowned.
 
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
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The "problem" is that unlike all previous Presidents I can remember, this won't hurt President Trump in any way.

People who care that he and his Administration have lied, have disrespected gold star families and who have completely re-written history are already anit-Trump.

People who are already pro-Trump (and this of course includes the overwhelming majority of GOP supporters and voters) simply do not care about facts. From their perspective:

  • President Trump has called all Gold Star families
  • He predecessors have not
  • Rep. Wilson is simply stirring things (and most likley being uppity)
  • President Trump is a great military leader
 
The Don said:
The "problem" is that unlike all previous Presidents I can remember, this won't hurt President Trump in any way.

People who care that he and his Administration have lied, have disrespected gold star families and who have completely re-written history are already anit-Trump.

People who are already pro-Trump (and this of course includes the overwhelming majority of GOP supporters and voters) simply do not care about facts. From their perspective:

  • President Trump has called all Gold Star families
  • He predecessors have not
  • Rep. Wilson is simply stirring things (and most likley being uppity)
  • President Trump is a great military leader
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Going to correct one thing - you say "President Trump is a great military leader", that should be "President Trump is the greatest ever military leader"

And I do wish that I was making a humorous post but I'm not, I heard someone identified as a retired USA General who stated (paraphrasing) "the best CIC since Reagan and probably before him".
 
ponderingturtle said:
To further uphold the honor of the service Kelly doubles down on his blatant lies.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/john-kelly-frederica-wilson-apologize/index.html

The administration seems to have a real talent for finding former generals who hold the truth and democracy in contempt.
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He had a revealing day yesterday.

Instead, Mr. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, resurrected the debate over Confederate monuments — previously fueled by his boss, President Trump, over the summer — and the Confederacy itself. He called Robert E. Lee “an honorable man who gave up his country to fight for his state,” said that “men and women of good faith on both sides made their stand where their conscience had them make their stand,” and argued that “the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War.”

Christina Wilkie, a reporter for CNBC, used Twitter to live-blog Monday’s interview, on the Fox News program “The Ingraham Angle.” Her tweet quoting Mr. Kelly’s “lack of an ability to compromise” statement spread quickly.

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“If John Kelly isn’t a complete idiot,” John Hudak, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a public policy research organization, tweeted late Monday, “he’s at least 3/5ths of the way there.”
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Spindrift said:
"Gave up his country" is Southern apologist speak for "Committed armed rebellion against his country."
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I love the fact that this **** storm is hitting right as the indictments come in. Would hope for a Trump heart attack if it weren't for Pence, the Godly, Righteous, and Unerring.
 
Are people still clinging to the idea that General Kelly is a noble warrior who is working against his better judgement for the good of the country as Chief of Staff to President Trump or are they coming around to the view that I had from the moment he agreed to serve President Trump in any capacity - that at best he is a political opportunist willing to work with Trump to further his own objectives or that (more likely IMO) he is an active participant and enabler in the President's behaviour and agenda ? :mad:
 
Who knew the guy who ran Gitmo would have severe character issues?
 
My kindest interpretation:
Like most military leaders, he thinks that war is always the fault of politicians, never generals. His talk of "inability to compromise" might have been a nod towards the negotiations with North Korea, which will need both sides compromising.

But when I hear that he said he would "let between 0 and 1 refugees into the country" it becomes clear that he is an ignorant bigot.
 
pgwenthold said:
I like the whole "inability to compromise" comment.

It's not like they didn't do something called, explicitly, "The Missouri Compromise."
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Well, maybe they could have offered to give slaves weekends off and two weeks vacation. Ya know, a compromise.
 
I previously said (somewhere) that after that first major speech I'd vote for Kelly for President in a heartbeat.

I hereby rescind that endorsement.
 
It might be possible to argue the idea that “the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War.”, so long as it is recognized that it was the southern states whose inability was at fault.

It perhaps bears noting that the modern core of support which sustains the GOP are the direct, lineal descendants of that group, both culturally and politically.
 
quadraginta said:
It might be possible to argue the idea that “the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War.”, so long as it is recognized that it was the southern states whose inability was at fault.

It perhaps bears noting that the modern core of support which sustains the GOP are the direct, lineal descendants of that group, both culturally and politically.
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Yeah, it's a real shame that people stopped compromising over human bondage. How did a guy from Boston get so well versed in lost cause talking points?
 
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