Cont: The Trump Presidency Part III

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mgidm86 said:
Context please. Did he say it here during this dramatic paragraph?



Give. Me. A. Break.

This one?




Ooookay.



Oh the outrage and the - the cover up and oh my gawd!

What a well written, unbiased, totally informative article!
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Your heartfelt sensitivity for the widow is noble of you. As noble as Trump's bloviational spewing.




I do you the honor of assuming you recognize the use of very heavy sarcasm politely phrased,
 
What?

A staffer at the National Security Council drafted a statement of condolence for President Donald Trump to make almost immediately after a deadly ambush of U.S. soldiers in Niger earlier this month.

But Trump never issued the statement, and, some two weeks later, is now in hot water over his initial silence on the soldiers’ deaths and alleged controversial comments he made to a widow of one of the dead.
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Why did they not release the statement? :confused:
 
It's long past the time to remove that lying Trump, an unfit mentally unstable moron who has proven that he is incapable of running the United States of America.


Trump Denies Family Claim He Disrespected Fallen Soldier

President Donald Trump on Wednesday denied telling the widow of a fallen soldier during a condolence call that the serviceman "must've known what he signed up for" — a claim made by a Florida congresswoman who was present for the call.

"I didn't say what that congresswoman said, I didn't say it at all," Trump told reporters. "And she knows it."

"He didn't even remember his name," Wilson recalled Myeshia Johnson telling her after hanging up with the president, the congresswoman told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Wednesday.

A family member of the fallen solider told The Washington Post, "President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...-soldier-must-ve-known-what-he-signed-n811756


Trump Rejects Health Insurer ‘Bail Out’ — After Praising It

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump disavowed a bipartisan health care agreement on Wednesday, delivering it a likely fatal blow only a day after he praised its approach and said he had personally encouraged its negotiation.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...th-insurer-bail-out-after-praising-it-n811941


The 25th Amendment Proves Why Trump's Mental Health Matters

Is America today in need of an unprecedented constitutional intervention?

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...-why-trump-s-mental-health-matters-ncna801666
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It's going to be this kind of day.

President Trump, in a personal phone call to a grieving military father, offered him $25,000 and said he would direct his staff to establish an online fundraiser for the family, but neither happened, the father said.

Chris Baldridge, the father of Army Cpl. Dillon Baldridge, told The Washington Post that Trump called him at his home in Zebulon, N.C., a few weeks after his 22-year-old son and two fellow soldiers were gunned down by an Afghan police officer in a suspected insider attack June 10. Their phone conversation lasted about 15 minutes, Baldridge said, and centered for a time on the father’s struggle with the manner in which his son was killed.

“I said, ‘Me and my wife would rather our son died in trench warfare,’ “ Baldridge said. “I feel like he got murdered over there.”

Trump’s offer of $25,000 adds another dimension to the president’s relations with Gold Star families, an honorific given to those whose loved ones die while serving in support of the nation’s wars. The disclosure follows questions about how often the president has called or written to grieving military families.
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Trebuchet said:
The teevee has just reported that Sarah Sanders has confirmed his "proof" doesn't exist. And the widow has confirmed the congresswoman's version.
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I fully expect to see him tweet that the Dems told them to be nasty to Trump.

I do believe that these "episodes" are getting worse.
 
The Don said:
I'm not sure the loopholes are that big and in any case the whole purpose of tax cuts is to make sure that the rich have more money so that in theory it can trickle down. To pay for this tax cut for the very wealthy, taxes on everyone else would have to rise significantly to compensate.

If there's no tax cut for the wealthy then why bother with it at all ? No tax cuts for the wealthy means no trickle-down, indeed no economic stimulus at all.
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SezMe said:
This link posted by Bob001 speaks directly to that issue. You're right to be skeptical.
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I enjoyed that article.

Seems that corporate/business/wealthy tax breaks should be tied to higher wages and benefits for the employees. That would ensure that there was in fact a trickle down of cash to the people who will spend it and thereby stimulate the economy.
 
Spindrift said:
That body can only remove the president temporarily when they think "the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office." They can't use the 25th amendment to remove him because they think he's immoral, unethical or even criminal. And the president just needs to give the Speaker and President pro tempore a letter saying, "I'm okay, I can do the job." and he's back on the job unless that body that tried to remove him restates that "No you ain't" and then it gets dumped into Congress to decide once and for all.

ETA: Section 4 of the 25th Amendment was intended to be used when the President was mentally or physically incapacitated. Not when he's a moronic, embarrassing douche nozzle as is currently the case.
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I never intended to suggest any such thing, and I apologize if there was something in my post which gave you that impression.

I assumed that the conditions stated in the 25th, Sect. 4 were a given. What I was discussing was the alternative to the " principal officers of the executive departments".
 
Expressing condolences to the family of a fallen soldier is one of those presidential duties that should be practically impossible to screw up and yet Trump managed it. How can a President who can offend a Gold Star family be trusted to carry out delicate domestic and international negotiations?
 
quadraginta said:
I never intended to suggest any such thing, and I apologize if there was something in my post which gave you that impression.

I assumed that the conditions stated in the 25th, Sect. 4 were a given. What I was discussing was the alternative to the " principal officers of the executive departments".
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Sorry about that, I took it as to how the 25th could be used under the current circumstances.
 
Civet said:
One thing I've seen on the alt-right message boards I frequent is that him saying something like this is pretty much taken as gospel and nothing can change that. Even if he later backs off of a position (like that birther nonsense) they won't be bothered by that. He might look like a fool to everyone else, but his base either won't care or they'll somehow convince themselves that he won.
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Trump is apparently their Big Brother.

Pterodactyl said:
He is terrible, but I am doubtful he meant it like, "**** happens. He knew the risks"
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We've touched on this already:

Molinaro said:
That's not quite the quote I saw. The ending I saw actually makes it seem much worse:

Trump said:
'Well, I guess he knew what he signed up for, but I guess it still hurt'
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Civet said:
That is much worse. I hadn't seen that version until you mentioned it but a quick search shows both variants being reported by different news sources. Some have audio of Wilson giving the version you cite, so I'd guess that's probably the more accurate of the two.
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WilliamSeger said:
I fully expect to see him tweet that the Dems told them to be nasty to Trump.

I do believe that these "episodes" are getting worse.
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I think they are too. If the VP was responsible and loyal to the country he would have already acted. Sadly, I think The Hair's episodes will have to get much worse before the cabinet takes it's duty seriously.
 
Craig4 said:
I think they are too. If the VP was responsible and loyal to the country he would have already acted. Sadly, I think The Hair's episodes will have to get much worse before the cabinet takes it's duty seriously.
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I think it needs to get a lot worse as much as I think Trump is an idiot*. The first use of Section 4 will set a precedent, we don't want the bar set too low so it can be used to regularly overthrow the government.

*ETA: Dangerous idiot.
 
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Argumemnon said:
The man just doesn't know how reality works, in any way, on any topic, under any circumance.
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WHAAATT? Donald Trump promised to pay someone, and then didn't? Who could have seen that coming!?

I mean, aside from the many contractors, small businesses, and charities that he's stiffed over the decades, leading to widespread condemnation and hundreds of lawsuits...
 
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