Cont: Possible Scientific Foundations of Homeopathy, Part 2

[Kumar]

One more aspect, we may need to check: In view of SR can also be a natural healing méchanism, whether it can also revert cancer cells to become normal cells? Actually, clearing killed cells in mass can lead tó heavy need of body cleaning mechanism which otherwise can also be quite harmful. So body def. Mechnism may not opt it till all other possibilities are exhausted. Since these béing self but abnormal cells, bódy def. can try it. DNA repair mech. well exists in our body.

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Posted By: kmortis

 

[bruto]

One more aspect, we may need to check: In view of SR can also be a natural healing méchanism, whether it can also revert cancer cells to become normal cells? Actually, clearing killed cells in mass can lead tó heavy need of body cleaning mechanism which otherwise can also be quite harmful. So body def. Mechnism may not opt it till all other possibilities are exhausted. Since these béing self but abnormal cells, bódy def. can try it. DNA repair mech. well exists in our body.

Study cells much, do you? How about finding out even a little bit about how cells work and then getting back to us.

 

[halleyscomet]

One more aspect, we may need to check: In view of SR can also be a natural healing méchanism, whether it can also revert cancer cells to become normal cells?

First, show me examples of cancerous cells reverting to "normal" cells. Then we can talk about if your SR, whatever that's supposed to be, can play a role.

Without proof the phenomenon actually exists, discussing if a certain thing can cause said phenomenon is like debating the odor of unicorn farts.

 

[Mojo]

Without proof the phenomenon actually exists, discussing if a certain thing can cause said phenomenon is like debating the odor of unicorn farts.

You do realise that you're in a thread about "possible scientific foundations of homeopathy", don't you?

 

[halleyscomet]

You do realise that you're in a thread about "possible scientific foundations of homeopathy", don't you?

Yes, I realize I'm complaining about OP discussing the theoretical smell of unicorn farts in a thread that's about the OP theorizing about the methane emissions of the Loch Ness monster and if they go up or down when the monster eats a Yeti.

 

[Kumar]

Study cells much, do you? How about finding out even a little bit about how cells work and then getting back to us.

I shall be happy to learn from you, whatever I am indicating. Please teach.

 

[Reality Check]

I shall be happy to learn from you, whatever I am indicating. Please teach.

You need to stop derailing the thread and learn this irrelevant topic elsewhere.

 

[Steve001]

First, show me examples of cancerous cells reverting to "normal" cells. Then we can talk about if your SR, whatever that's supposed to be, can play a role.

Without proof the phenomenon actually exists, discussing if a certain thing can cause said phenomenon is like debating the odor of unicorn farts.

I don't have a shread of evidence to back this up but I know they smell like cotton candy.

 

[halleyscomet]

I don't have a shread of evidence to back this up but I know they smell like cotton candy.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I don't have a shread of evidence to back this up but I know they smell like cotton candy.

Now that's a scientific fact: there's no real evidence for it, but it is scientific fact.

Dave

 

[Porpoise of Life]

One more aspect, we may need to check: In view of SR can also be a natural healing méchanism, whether it can also revert cancer cells to become normal cells? Actually, clearing killed cells in mass can lead tó heavy need of body cleaning mechanism which otherwise can also be quite harmful. So body def. Mechnism may not opt it till all other possibilities are exhausted. Since these béing self but abnormal cells, bódy def. can try it. DNA repair mech. well exists in our body.

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Posted By: kmortis

Even if, if if if, this has any basis in reality... how does that prove homeopathy?

You are basically admitting that homeopathy is a bunch of lies with no basis in reality, and trying to find a mechanism for the alleged effects of homeopathy without homeopathy needing to be true.

ETA: Finding some bordering-on-magical pseudo placebo ultra self healing mechanism would be proof for homeopathy in the same way that it would be proof of faith healing, reiki, crystal magic, and so on.
That is: not at all... even if the mechanism you postulate exists (and you have no evidence at all), then the causal link to homeopathy would still need to be established in order to claim that it's a scientific mechanism for homeopathy to work.

 

[Kumar]

It is indicated on many sites on google search. One I gave previously and another:
www.cancertutor.com
I do not know, how much these are trusted. Anyway that is a secondary thóught on SR. Primary is, cancer is cured also by SR. Whether it kill or revert can cells is secondary thought and need be be understood very carefully and dynamically. If altered interacellular environment is corrected, probably it may also lead to such revertion.

 

[halleyscomet]

It is indicated on many sites on google search. One I gave previously and another:
www.cancertutor.com
I do not know, how much these are trusted. Anyway that is a secondary thóught on SR. Primary is, cancer is cured also by SR. Whether it kill or revert can cells is secondary thought and need be be understood very carefully and dynamically. If altered interacellular environment is corrected, probably it may also lead to such revertion.

There you go again, dowsing for unicorn farts.

You've still got jack squat by way of evidence.

What is "SR" anyway? The acronym is a bit vague: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR

 

[fagin]

No Kumar. Cancer is not 'cured' by spontaneous remission (assuming that's what SR means - stop being lazy.)

Spontaneous remission may occur in a very small percentage of patients, but it's not a cure, and never will be.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

No Kumar. Cancer is not 'cured' by spontaneous remission (assuming that's what SR means - stop being lazy.)

Spontaneous remission may occur in a very small percentage of patients, but it's not a cure, and never will be.

He's trying to assert that homeopathy works, because most patients who are given homeopathic cancer treatment die, but the same tiny percentage of people as that of those who are untreated experience spontaneous remission?

That would be funny, if it wasn't so tragically stupid.

 

[Kumar]

He's trying to assert that homeopathy works, because most patients who are given homeopathic cancer treatment die, but the same tiny percentage of people as that of those who are untreated experience spontaneous remission?

That would be funny, if it wasn't so tragically stupid.

Ít is meant to pollute and derail the thread. Pls take care.

 

[fagin]

Why would you want to pollute and derail your own thread, Kumar?

 

[bruto]

It is indicated on many sites on google search. One I gave previously and another:
www.cancertutor.com
I do not know, how much these are trusted. Anyway that is a secondary thóught on SR. Primary is, cancer is cured also by SR. Whether it kill or revert can cells is secondary thought and need be be understood very carefully and dynamically. If altered interacellular environment is corrected, probably it may also lead to such revertion.

Maybe in the homeopathic world the dilution of knowledge to nothing at all makes ignorance wisdom, but elsewhere it does not.

 

[Reality Check]

Ít is meant to pollute and derail the thread

This thread is Possible Scientific Foundations of Homeopathy, Part 2
You are polluting and diluting your own thread so that it is totally useless - just like homeopathy. Whoops that means your post is a rare on-topic, not derailing post !

 

[Mojo]

He's trying to assert that homeopathy works, because most patients who are given homeopathic cancer treatment die, but the same tiny percentage of people as that of those who are untreated experience spontaneous remission?

That would be funny, if it wasn't so tragically stupid.

I've seen an apologist for homoeopathy claim that the 1835 Nuremberg Salt Test was a successful demonstration of homoeopathy because subjects in the group given the remedy exhibited proving symptoms, even if subjects in the control group did as well.