Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[Belz...]

I am into reality.

No problem. Reality is the other way round.

You are in no position to lecture anyone about reality.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

{Venting}

You, Johan, are either incredibly mentally unwell or simply gimmick posting for ***** and giggles. In this entire thread, you've yet to muster up even the smallest iota of usable evidence for any of your inane claims.

You are not a god, not the wife of god, not even his 8th cousins, friends, next door neighbor.

You are not my mother. I know this because my mother is stronger than you ever will be by an order of 3 magnitudes.

To everyone else, This is a good exercise in using the ignore/block functions this forum provides. I can almost promise you when the only text Johan reads is his/her own she'll tire and find somewhere else to bother.

 

[halleyscomet]

Well he is the one who started it on the Internet. But he is not the only one here in this society. Many see it and does it already. They have just not come out on the Internet. That is why you will see the "thumbs up" of seven others.

So what if there are other people who call you mother or think you’re god? Even if you gave us proof of that claim all it would do is prove you’re a cult leader. It doesn’t prove any of your claims of divinity to be true.

I’ll concede you’re the leader of a cult apparently modeled after “The Family International.” I’ll concede you have one or more members. Now, what can you offer beyond the mere existence of your cult that proves you’re anything other than a cult leader? Narcissistic control freaks who convince a bunch of people they’re god are a dime a dozen here in the USA. Every few years there’s a fresh mass suicide or disgusting sex abuse case emerging from one of them. What evidence can you offer that you’re anything more than a pocket David Koresh or dime store Jim Jones?

Yep. But remember you are just playing a game. Like children do.

Nonsense. We joined YOUR game. Now that you’re losing you’re pretending to take your ball home. It’s kinda adorable, in a sad sort of way. You want to pretend to be above us, but you stay, continually submitting to your role as our entertainment.

Now, go think up some fresh lies. Your insults have gotten very predictable and formulaic. It’s your lies that are providing comedy gold at the moment.

 

[halleyscomet]

Yep. Good one this. But it seems you do not believe it for yourself. It is only me. You are no problem to yourself says your brain and your books etc.



But I discovered that 30 years ago. And then I found the solution. To die as a human being and be born again as a Godly being.



http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/born-again.68720/



But most here are still looking for the problem in their life. At least they can see it now. But do they see the solution? Or are they doing what you are doing. Pointing everywhere except at themselves.

Does that mean you’re finally admitting the fiasco with the missing Facebook photo was the result of your computer illiteracy?

 

[halleyscomet]

Well you can ask Zola now seeing that I am already 8 years here in his community. Having been chased away from some. Having been assaulted by some. Specially my one daughter that put a knife in my arm approximately a month ago is still talked about etc.

Anyone in this thread know more about this woman who apparently stabbed JA in the arm?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Outright lies now, is it? That is the game now is it?

Then you should show us.

From 26th Sept. to 11th Oct. everyone here was telling you that what you claimed was at that site was not at that site. This was a matter of fact.

Nope. It was there all the time. It was just hidden. But you accused me of lying and bluffing. And you accused me of fabricating facts. You accused me of intentionally lying about something that didn't exist. But it existed. The reasons why it was not seen was because of the security setting which we didn't know of. And the reason for you not logging in which you know off. So you didn't do what you could have done. You didn't do your homework properly. You were sloppy. And instead like the road of calling me a liar.

Now, you are attempting to shift blame for your blundering to wherever you think you can. Well, sorry. That will no more fly than the notion that a rock will spontaneously levitate.

I never said that I didn't realize that there was a security issue. I always said that there is a problem somewhere which need to be corrected. I also said that as a last resort I will publish the photo. I tried my best. As for logging in you refused. You didn't do your best. You liked calling me a liar.

Do you not realise that people here told you your link was useless because it didn't actually link to what you claimed?

Sure. I never doubted that. I was working on the solution because I saw your reluctance to log in. Kids are like that. When things get difficult they just quit. You should have perseverance. But that is in the Spirit of God.

Do you not realise that all of us were being honest?

Sure. You didn't see what I saw. And you misused it to your "advantage". And I had to keep on forgiving you which is of course not a problem to me. And while I was forgiving you lived in my Grace. And you were calling me all the names associated with a liar while you could have helped by logging in. But do not worry. I still Love you. God's Love can not be broken because of the child - like reactions of His children.

Do you not realize that you admitted that we were correct?

I didn't admit you were correct because I never called you a liar. The children did that. Which of course the Mother forgave according to her Motherhood.

Do you not realise that you are now being intentionally dishonest about it?

Show me.

Had you had the honesty to step up and admit that you made a mistake, that would be fine and likely soon forgotten.

I never said something else. I said that there was a mistake somewhere. But it was just a lack of knowledge. And I found the mistake and made sure it was corrected.

But no, you had to double down. When caught on that falsehood, you tripled down and finally, when you had nowhere to go, you simply lied your head off.

Show me.

This is not opinion. All of the posts are still there, we can all read them, and you demonstrably lied purposefully.

Show me.

Now, in keeping with the law of unintended consequences, everything you post will be subjected to severe scrutiny, since we have established already that you play fast and loose with reality thanks to your very own posts.

You are going to do your homework from now on? Good. I always told you that it is important.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Another mistake again. Double post. My internet cut out. And in fixing it this happened.

 

[halleyscomet]

you accused me of lying and bluffing. And you accused me of fabricating facts. You accused me of intentionally lying about something that didn't exist.

We had nothing but your track record to go by. Since you already had a well-established track record of being a liar, and you spent a couple WEEKS refusing to address the fact we couldn’t see what you claimed to see, assuming you were lying was the reasonable conclusion.

Besides, calling you a liar was a more charitable conclusion than thinking you were simply too stupid to understand the fact that Facebook lets people restrict who can see specific posts, despite having the concept explained to you multiple times. The fact that you keep babbling about people being reluctant to log in, when several people HAD tried to view the post while logged into their account, tells me you STILL don’t understand what the problem was. Someone else figured it out for you. This means you’re taking credit for fixing a problem someone else fixed.

Given the comically obvious lies you’ve posted since the image’s security setting change I know I’m going to once again assume you are lying should a similar incident happen in the future. Assuming you’re lying is what’s called a “low risk” assumption.

 

[fagin]

Anyone in this thread know more about this woman who apparently stabbed JA in the arm?

As he called her his daughter I assume it was some random drunk woman in the shebeen.

And judging from this thread and it's contents, she might well have been justified.

 

[Border Reiver]

Yep. We need to understand humans needing rules to rule. God does it through Wisdom. Like king Solomon. Interesting to go into it and see the difference. And then understanding the following.

Pro 8:14* Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.*
Pro 8:15* By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.*
Pro 8:16* By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.*
Pro 8:17* I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.*

You can all look forward to your destination. Kings ruling by Wisdom. No need to be voted in or buying yourself in or whatever.

Yahweh the Bloody rules by fear - not wisdom.

Fear of genocide by drowning, fear of waking up and no longer being able to speak with the neighbours because Yahweh has made everyone speak new languages overnight, fear of bear attacks, fear of disease and other plagues (despite wanting to stop - Yahweh the Bloody will harden your ruler's heart so he can kill more), fear of having to kill your child to prove your devotion to him, fear of eternal suffering if you break one of his rules, fear of losing your family because He's having a conversation with the Adversary, etc.

That's not wisdom, or offering a better way, that's "do it my way, or else"

 

[Johanabrahams]

I didn't add a thing. I simply cited the vile book and what it actually says.

Then you will have to give the verse.

Your god bears the responsibility for that nonsense.

So you know it was not Him?

Which mother? In a race of five people claiming to be "mother", you are currently running in last place.

Yep. In the game. Children like their games.

Were it not for you harassing Zola, you would not even be on the list.

Harassing can only be established by asking Zola. You should know that by now. But ok. Some kids are slower than others.

And you incompetently failed at that anyway.

Again you have to wait on Zola. Patience is not a virtue of the child.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Did you even read what I wrote before posting that irrelevant drivel?

Yep. You were trying to say that God is into creating bad lives for people by stealing and killing their stock.

We're not talking about you or Job. We're talking about the pigs Jesus murdered and the fig tree he destroyed.

And I said that in Job is the evidence that God always give more when something was taken for a special purpose. He is not a thief. He always focuses on what is better for us.

You'd think a god would be able to focus on the topic at hand. Have you been evaluated for early onset dementia?

I am there. You just do not understand.

Or you could be a good boy and fetch us a link.

It is not that important to you but to Abaddon. And he knows what I am speaking about.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Yep, Job got ten dead kids, must have been quite a blow,Job.

Yep. I know. I lost my wife and two daughters. It is unbearable to the human being. But God softens the blow and afterward gives much more. And the best was the experience and the growth that came by it.

Other things I lost is not so painful, like my job, my name and everything that I worked for. But it increases spiritual strength to the point of being untouchable. So again it is worth it a 100 times.

Last of last it is the losing of self. Worth is infinitely as it is replaced by God.

 

[Johanabrahams]

You admit the mistake is on your end and then call me sloppy?

Yep. I didn't know about the security settings in FB. And neither did my son. Which everyone including you blamed on me being dishonest. That is lying about the photo.

You are sloppy because you could have logged in. You was able to create that fake FB page. So you have the mental ability and knowledge to have done it. Why did you not do it?

As Halleyscomet has so kindly pointed out, the mistake and nonsense is all on your end.

All my mistake? Well I do not have a problem with you saying it. Children does not know much.

Anyone else noticing that the more he is called out on said nonsense, the more aggressive he becomes with insults and name-calling?

Well since Jesus died for sins relationships are unbreakable. The mistakes are just forgiven.

But give me some facts on me being "aggressive" to somebody.

Such none godlike behavior.

As a child of God we have much "none godlike" behavior. And we grow to have less and less. At this stage I am a wife of God. Not Him. Not perfect but older than his children that you will meet in churches etc.

But ok I also asked for the facts because human beings are not to be trusted. They are so "none godlike" in their behavior. But do not let that disturb you seeing that I am responsible of your new found "godlike" behavior as your new found "godlike" Mother and you the newborn "godlike" daughter.

So being a "godlike" daughter now you can tell me more about what is happening on the Cleopatra page.

 

[fagin]

Yep. I know. I lost my wife and two daughters. It is unbearable to the human being. But God softens the blow and afterward gives much more. And the best was the experience and the growth that came by it.

Other things I lost is not so painful, like my job, my name and everything that I worked for. But it increases spiritual strength to the point of being untouchable. So again it is worth it a 100 times.

Last of last it is the losing of self. Worth is infinitely as it is replaced by God.

And by lost you mean chucked you out?

Subtle difference.

 

[kali1137]

Yep. I didn't know about the security settings in FB. And neither did my son. Which everyone including you blamed on me being dishonest. That is lying about the photo.

You are sloppy because you could have logged in. You was able to create that fake FB page. So you have the mental ability and knowledge to have done it. Why did you not do it?



All my mistake? Well I do not have a problem with you saying it. Children does not know much.



Well since Jesus died for sins relationships are unbreakable. The mistakes are just forgiven.

But give me some facts on me being "aggressive" to somebody.



As a child of God we have much "none godlike" behavior. And we grow to have less and less. At this stage I am a wife of God. Not Him. Not perfect but older than his children that you will meet in churches etc.

But ok I also asked for the facts because human beings are not to be trusted. They are so "none godlike" in their behavior. But do not let that disturb you seeing that I am responsible of your new found "godlike" behavior as your new found "godlike" Mother and you the newborn "godlike" daughter.

So being a "godlike" daughter now you can tell me more about what is happening on the Cleopatra page.

First off, I was logged in to facebook when I looked. The picture was not there because of security settings on your "sons" side of things. I had no control over that. Second, I never claimed to create that fake page - which isn't fake, it's a parody page.
One can easily assume what happened on that page. You spammed it and then tried to friend request anyone who had ever posted on it with them having zero idea who you are. Reported and banned sounds like a reasonable action to take against that behavior wouldn't you say? Sounds like jesus disciplined you for very childlike behavior.

 

[abaddon]

I didn't add a thing. I simply cited the vile book and what it actually says.

Then you will have to give the verse.

Your god bears the responsibility for that nonsense.

So you know it was not Him?

Which mother? In a race of five people claiming to be "mother", you are currently running in last place.

Yep. In the game. Children like their games.

Were it not for you harassing Zola, you would not even be on the list.

Harassing can only be established by asking Zola. You should know that by now. But ok. Some kids are slower than others.

And you incompetently failed at that anyway.

Again you have to wait on Zola. Patience is not a virtue of the child.

I gave that to you already, your own sloppiness caused you to ignore it. And no, I am not going to indulge your childish game of "Hunt the Bible Verse" because it is utterly pointless.

Yep. I know. I lost my wife and two daughters. It is unbearable to the human being. But God softens the blow and afterward gives much more. And the best was the experience and the growth that came by it.

Other things I lost is not so painful, like my job, my name and everything that I worked for. But it increases spiritual strength to the point of being untouchable. So again it is worth it a 100 times.

Last of last it is the losing of self. Worth is infinitely as it is replaced by God.

Wrong again. You intentionally drove away your wife and daughters. You didn't want them for who they were, you wanted them to enforce your own warped imagination upon. You wanted them as your default victims.

 

[Johanabrahams]

I don't believe you.

Meaning that I am lying.

Even if you WERE telling the truth and he DID call you "mother" it doesn't prove anything. Any "god" who takes this much effort to produce such pathetic "evidence" is not a god at all.

Now I am speaking the truth.

Nah. Nick-names given by drunk friends are proof of nothing, as your "mother" claim bears out. Even if you DID prove some drunk guy called you "mother" all it shows is a drunk guy said something stupid. Wow. Stop the presses. Call the Pope.

Now my son is drunk again.

I did. I asked the person whose Facebook page you keep spamming. So far, he has not answered. You can't be much of a God-Mother to him if he can't be bothered to respond to someone asking about you.

Now my son "can't be bothered again.

Nah, not worth the effort. Your one alleged follower can't be bothered to respond to a question about you. I have information from third parties I trust FAR more than you who HAVE done that research. I know not to trust you, which is the key lesson to take away.

And now you do not trust me.

Oh, drop the hypocrisy. You're asking us to believe you're a god-mother without providing any actual witnesses or believers.

And now there is nobody.

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. How the HELL do you get to asking a "child or other relative," as potential witnesses to someone being a sex god? Did you just confess to incest and pedophilia? Jesus Christ man, you get creepier and more disturbing the longer this thread goes on.

Nope. I am just showing you how easy it is to proof you wrong. Because you asked for it.

I assert that I am a sex god. I am a lover of incomparable skill, creativity and perversion. I drive women who thought themselves non-orgasmic to multiple orgasms. I am libido incarnate, desire personified. Were I to write my exploits it would make the Marquis de Sade blush. Lady Chatterley would toss aside her gardener in an instant for a single night with me. Any woman you've ever been with would forget your very existence after I tended to their deepest desires.

Prove me wrong Johanabrahams. Prove me wrong.

Now take what I taught you and do the same with me. Then you will not show yourself to the world as totally groping around in the darkness.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Dude, http://johanabrahams.pnyhost.com is full of references to Robertson, South Africa. What exactly are you trying to say with the quoted line above?

Are you claming Paul Bethke is not from South Africa or that you aren't?

Yep. Good to ask. Misunderstanding is part of the human race.

I said that I do not know him from South Africa point of view. I heard about him in this forum for the first time.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Your recent incident of sexualizing children puts your whole "god-mother" routine into a really disturbing light.

Maybe you are on to something. Tell us more.