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Money Talks, BS kneels
As I expected, that spineless-******* Roger Goodell has changed course:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/sports/football/nfl-goodell-anthem-kneeling.html
The controversy has spilled into the broader football community, with some former players lashing out at current players who refuse to stand for the anthem. Mike Ditka, a Hall of Fame player and head coach, said Monday that he did not believe that there had been any oppression in the United States in the last century. “All of a sudden, it’s become a big deal now, about oppression,” he said.
For context, Ditka was 25 when the Civil Rights Act was passed. Meaning that he grew up in the same country with Jim Crow and either didn't notice or didn't view it as oppressive.
The President of the United States uses the power of his office to threaten the NFL into taking action against its players for exercising their right to free speech.
The NFL capitulates.
Nope, no oppression there. None at all.
Maybe I'm being insensitive, but I wouldn't describe this as oppression.
The rights of NFL players to express disapproval of police violence is fairly limited when it comes to their workplace, which includes the pregame show. I don't have much right to make political statements where I work. Now, I agree that it is the players' workplace which would make their statements most effective, but that doesn't mean that any free speech rights I've seen would be infringed if their private employers restrict that activity.
Sure, I'd like it if Trump didn't make statements about it. It's at best unseemly for a president to weigh in on such issues. The fact that he's president might make it a first amendment issue.
But I wouldn't call it oppression. Just like I don't call it oppression if public schools have dress codes. I call it ill-advised, needlessly restrictive, maybe even arguably a violation of the first amendment, but not oppression so much.
The President of the United States uses the power of his office to threaten the NFL into taking action against its players for exercising their right to free speech.
The NFL capitulates.
Nope, no oppression there. None at all.
No. Because he did not use the power of the office. Absolutely no power of the president were used.
Unless he asked for a written opinion of a cabinet member or something.
The threat was issued as an official Presidential statement.
So yeah, he did use the power of his offfice.
Official statements are not a power of the office. It isn't a power at all. They carry not legal impact.
Official statements are not a power of the office. It isn't a power at all. They carry not legal impact.
So no legal power then.Wrong again.
Presidential statements can hold legal weight and be used in court and as evidence in war crimes trials and UN resolutions.
Official statements are not a power of the office. It isn't a power at all. They carry not legal impact.