Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[halleyscomet]

The "evil" should not be much of a problem to you as Mom has the solution.

Do you know Paul Bethke?

The relevant posts are kinda vague, but it looks like you were a pastor around the same time he was going around to different churches trying to indoctrinate people into his version of Christianity. You're on the edge of the geographic area he supposedly traveled and his theology necessitates he'd likely have avoided any black-majority churches like leper colonies, but it's conceivable he visited your church and tried to teach you his theology.

Did Paul Bethke try to convert you?

If so, how did the conversation go?

 

[Johanabrahams]

No, feelings are chemical. They make contact because they're part of it.
When I hit you on the hand, you feel pain in the hand, don't you? Yeah, but it's the brain doing the feeling. Same thing with the impression that the heart is doing any feeling. We've known this for quite a while now.

When you hit me, specially through the face, I feel the pain of the slap on my face and another feeling/spirit comes to me and make contact in my spirit.

I'm asking you what part of this "spirit" of yours operates outside of biology.

This one coming from the "outside" of the body after the slap in the face.

They seem pretty faillible for godly thoughts.

Because you do not understand them.

In the judgment of everything humans know for a fact.

So how is this a fact?

They sound suspiciously like deluded human thoughts.

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Because I have no obligation to keep your secrets. If you make claims, support them with facts open for all to see.

Good! Agree. That is exactly what I am saying to our secret keeper, Abaddon.

 

[TofuFighter]

... I am giving milk.

jesus h. christ on a stick.

 

[abaddon]

Good! Agree. That is exactly what I am saying to our secret keeper, Abaddon.

Oh, really? When my contacts have specifically stated that they want anonymity as a condition of their response? You think I should take a massive dump on them and their right to privacy? Just for your benefit? That's what you think?

OK, "god" or "mom" or whatever it is you are calling yourself today, if you are a deity, compel me to reveal whatever it is you want to know. Bet you can't. Why? Because you are powerless. Why else? Because I signed a code of professional ethics decades ago and I meant it.

You simply will not extract from me any identifier for anyone, ever.

And there is nothing you can do about that, "god"/"mom"/whatever.

Why not? Because you are powerless to do anything about it.

 

[abaddon]

... I am giving milk.

jesus h. christ on a stick.

Quite. And he thinks he is somehow winning by force feeding his boob.

 

[halleyscomet]

Quite. And he thinks he is somehow winning by force feeding his boob.

Given the overt age and incest play aspects of his overall act, this is probably the most charitable interpretation of his "milk."

 

[Johanabrahams]

It is, and justifiably so.

So it is your opinion. But you presented it as everybody's opinion.

I made contact with Robertson in order to verify the facts. It's what skeptics do.
And it makes you uncomfortable. I can understand why.

Nope I am trying to help you.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king

Because your "ghostly" behavior is also seen by others. And some see it for what it is. Look at Argumemnon.

Because I have no obligation to keep your secrets. If you make claims, support them with facts open for all to see.

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Make up your mind. Are you god? Or everyone's mother and the wife of god?

How do you see that?

I do not need to make up my mind. It was made up long ago. And I do not think I wavered somewhere.

I have seen you fumbling with malformed ideas. That's it.

Only you are jumping around not me.

Your evidence is a broken link to nothing. How apropos.

Not really, the link provided goes nowhere.

Not for me. That I told you already. And you should have given me a way to fix it. But I also provided you with another one because it seems that you do not want to help with the problem. Just complaining like babies do.

Does this second one also goes nowhere?

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola

Then why should anyone believe in any god?

Many reasons I have given for that. You should read them again. The last one I will remind you of.

Then we can fix planet earth.

 

[halleyscomet]

Many reasons I have given for that. You should read them again.

Be a dear and humor those of us new to your claims with an executive summary.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Ah, great. So can you present what you consider to be the single most convincing piece of evidence for the "ghost"?

Well. As I am his Mother I obviously have to get him out of his "ghostly" status.

And I am showing him the way.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king

But I can not force him to take it. His "ghostly" status will have to convince him to leave it and become real.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Just so I have this clear in my head...............links to random facebook posts is proof that god not only exists but is you?

Why do you call it a "random facebook post"?

I call it the first photo of its kind in the whole world. I would also say amazing and you would say something like "madness".

Going by the rules and burden of proof set down by you, I shall now link to a random person on facebook to declare that I am Cleopatra.

You can try and give us the link to see what happen. I would not advice it though as I do not think it will amount to anything.

 

[abaddon]

So it is your opinion. But you presented it as everybody's opinion.

And it is. Not a single supporter have you found here.

Nope I am trying to help you.

forums delphiforums com king(link intentionally broken)

You are helping nobody with your spam. Sorry.

Because your "ghostly" behavior is also seen by others. And some see it for what it is. Look at Argumemnon.

And?

How do you see that?

I do not need to make up my mind. It was made up long ago. And I do not think I wavered somewhere.

Only you are jumping around not me.

That's in your head.

Not for me. That I told you already. And you should have given me a way to fix it. But I also provided you with another one because it seems that you do not want to help with the problem. Just complaining like babies do.

Again with the insults. Not very godly, is it?

Does this second one also goes nowhere?
https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola

No, that simply goes to the bloke drinking beer in a shack. This has been pointed out to you countless times.

Many reasons I have given for that. You should read them again. The last one I will remind you of.

Then we can fix planet earth.

Seems you left something out. What last one are you reminding me of and where have you done so?

Also, you have provided no evidence for any god of any description. It is almost as if you have none and you know it.

 

[kali1137]

Why do you call it a "random facebook post"?

I call it the first photo of its kind in the whole world. I would also say amazing and you would say something like "madness".



You can try and give us the link to see what happen. I would not advice it though as I do not think it will amount to anything.

I call it that because that is exactly what it is. The only link you provided that works is a random(to anyone who doesn't personally know him)guy and his buddy having a beer. There are no comments to be seen that back up your claim, nor is there anything else on that page that is out of the ordinary. You should take your own parting advice.

 

[abaddon]

Why do you call it a "random facebook post"?

I call it the first photo of its kind in the whole world. I would also say amazing and you would say something like "madness".

It is a picture of some bloke drinking a beer in some shack somewhere. How is it not random and pointless?

You can try and give us the link to see what happen. I would not advice it though as I do not think it will amount to anything.

Oh, no, no, no. We have all tested and verified that kali is indeed Cleopatra to the exclusion of anything else.

Now what?

 

[Johanabrahams]

That presumes ghosts to be evil, which is an absurd assertion to make in the absence of evidence.

Well in this case there is evidence. Abaddon is real. Well still not much of a reality as he is still hiding behind a "nick". And so is his life. A hidden mystery. Much of the "ghost" still present there.

But as he is my son I have great hope for him. He of course reject the opportunity as it is not an opportunity to him yet. But that of course can not change me.

Many cultures have accounts of ghosts with benign or even benevolent intentions towards the living. These are no less authoritative than your bald assertions about the nature of the supernatural.

I direct you to The "Hungry Ghosts" episode of the Uncanny Japan podcast. It touches on just a few of the types of Gaki in Japanese folklore and mythology. The position of the Gaki on the Wheel of Life is not a pleasant one, yet it is still a point where a soul has opportunities to once again ascend. Your simplistic view of mythology would dismiss all Gaki as evil in and of themselves.

This is totally another context on which I didn't say anything. You should stick with the context. The ghost here is Abaddon. Only when you understand why I am saying it you can speak about it. So you have to read a bit on my and his history in this thread. If you do not understand then you should ask first. After you understand well then you will have the ability to say something worthwhile in this regard.

 

[abaddon]

Well in this case there is evidence. Abaddon is real. Well still not much of a reality as he is still hiding behind a "nick". And so is his life. A hidden mystery. Much of the "ghost" still present there.

My actual identity is publically available on this very site. You have been told this before. Knock off the lies.

But as he is my son I have great hope for him. He of course reject the opportunity as it is not an opportunity to him yet. But that of course can not change me.

I am not your son nor ever will be.

This is totally another context on which I didn't say anything. You should stick with the context. The ghost here is Abaddon. Only when you understand why I am saying it you can speak about it. So you have to read a bit on my and his history in this thread. If you do not understand then you should ask first. After you understand well then you will have the ability to say something worthwhile in this regard.

No, there still is no such thing as "ghosts" no matter how much you stamp your widdle feets.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Clicking the link produces this:



There's a theological metaphor in there somewhere, but all I can come up with at the moment is, "Johanabrahams gets a 404 error when he tries to prove his claims."

Well maybe somebody can help out on this.

But for the meantime try the second one.

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola Then physical go to the photo that I am speaking about.

It is named:
Me and my Mother.

And read what is written there. And when you understand come and tell us. what you have discovered. If you do not understand come and ask some questions till you understand what I am saying. Then you can debate with me. Before this point you will just be fumbling.

 

[halleyscomet]

Well in this case there is evidence. Abaddon is real. Well still not much of a reality as he is still hiding behind a "nick". And so is his life. A hidden mystery. Much of the "ghost" still present there.

So you're calling people who disagree with you "ghosts." Is that an implied threat of fatal violence against them?

But as he is my son I have great hope for him. He of course reject the opportunity as it is not an opportunity to him yet. But that of course can not change me.

Yeah, I'm sure he's REALLY broken up about failing the chance to join you in your creepy, non-consensual, age/incest/lactation kink fantasy.

This is totally another context on which I didn't say anything. You should stick with the context. The ghost here is Abaddon. Only when you understand why I am saying it you can speak about it. So you have to read a bit on my and his history in this thread. If you do not understand then you should ask first. After you understand well then you will have the ability to say something worthwhile in this regard.

Your "context" so far has been you claiming to be a god while trying to entice others to join you in a weird kink role playing fantasy where you're gender-swapped and lactating. I think I can safely bring up Japanese hungry ghosts in response to a comment about ghosts without incurring the wrath of the moderators.

 

[abaddon]

Well maybe somebody can help out on this.

But for the meantime try the second one.

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola Then physical go to the photo that I am speaking about.

It is named:
Me and my Mother.

And read what is written there. And when you understand come and tell us. what you have discovered. If you do not understand come and ask some questions till you understand what I am saying. Then you can debate with me. Before this point you will just be fumbling.

Will you please stop this. It is a picture of two blokes drinking beer in a shack. It has no caption, nor any comments. Nor are you in it. We can all verify this and have done so multiple times. Searching that page for the word "mother" yields zero results, and the second picture is of some random kid. Out of curiosity, I browsed his photos and you are not there anywhere either.

 

[Johanabrahams]

By murdering animals and destroying the property of an innocent bystander.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r65C367hCVI

As for the fig tree, did the person who OWNED the fig tree really deserve to have his tree destroyed so some wandering, homeless rabbi could make a theological point?

The point of the "robbery" is not handled here. We do not know anything about it because it is not important. You can just assume that Jesus gave the man with the animals 10 times more back. And the man with the fig tree got a property with 10 fig trees.

Job 42:12* So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.*
Job 42:13* He had also seven sons and three daughters.*
Job 42:14* And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch.*
Job 42:15* And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.*
Job 42:16* After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.*
Job 42:17* So Job died, being old and full of days.*

The same happened to me. God took my job. He gave 10 back. He took my 2 kids. I have 20 now and still getting more. He took my wife. I got Him in her place. He took my life. I got His in its place.

 

[halleyscomet]

Well maybe somebody can help out on this.

But for the meantime try the second one.

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola Then physical go to the photo that I am speaking about.

It is named:
Me and my Mother.

And read what is written there. And when you understand come and tell us. what you have discovered. If you do not understand come and ask some questions till you understand what I am saying. Then you can debate with me. Before this point you will just be fumbling.

Still no dice, largely because you fail at understanding remedial web security.

We are blocked from seeing the image. A direct link won't work. Hunting for it in their profile won't work. You are allowed to see the image because that's how the person whose profile you are linking to has set up the security. Zola want's YOU to be able to see the image, but does NOT want outsiders like us to see it. The security he's placed on the image proves he's only humoring you. Whatever he wrote on the image is meant for you to see, but he has no interest in letting outsiders see it.

If whatever he wrote there were sincere, he wouldn't be restricting it this way.

Clearly he doesn't fear you as a supernatural entity, or he wouldn't try such a transparent tactic. The one follower you thought you have has in fact rejected you, and you gave us the proof yourself.