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Merged A God of Love / The Living God

abaddon said:
This is not an insignificant point. Even his/her fellow christians reject him as an outright heretic. As an atheist, that means nothing to me anyway, but the first link is Johan talking to himself. This seems to be a feature. Even on his/her co-religionists sites he ends up banned or simply talking to himself. Quite why he posts such links is anyone's guess.
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Because it's part of his "message." The fact that he doesn't have one, or more accurately that it is more about himself than any God he espouses (just try rereading this thread, for example), is irrelevant. If he is speaking, it's enough to convince him that someone, somewhere, is listening; if they're listening it's only a matter of time before they're converted.

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If the link you provided indeed represents your "one big happy family" I'm put in mind of the opening few scenes of The 12 Monkeys.
 
abaddon said:
Is the god you don't believe in shaming you and you simply have insufficient faith to realise it?
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Nope. Not really. But children do not see. Mom has to open their eyes first.

This is actually about the Living God. He is the Truth also. And He says that Craig4 was present when Tom was killed. Craig4 saw him die and being resurrected in the "sex". Everyone saw it.

And then Craig4 took one tiny piece out of context. And he ran with it. And he changed it into what he liked. And he use the changed fact which then was not a fact anymore but just something he liked.

And he ran calling me a "murderer". And nobody stopped him. And he enjoyed his "imaginary fact". And he lived in his imagination. And enjoying his imagination.

And he enjoyed calling me a murderer.

And I spoke to him many times about it. But he was too blind and deaf to hear. And I kept on warning him. But he kept on running. And nobody helped.

But everybody saw.

And he made me the "murderer".

And I just had to forgive and forgive and forgive.

Until the Living God said it is enough now.

And you say he did well making me a murderer with a piece he took out of context.

Not so.

But the Living God is using it to His benefit.

As children are blind and deaf and their eyes and ears must be opened first.

And it was only Robertson living in God's Grace.

Now it is spreading around the world.

And you have sided yourself now with Craig4.

And you are living also living in my Grace now.

And who else?
 
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Beady said:
So, has this thread developed a coherent topic, yet? Near as I can tell, it's a discussion about whether johanabrahams is an internet kook. If that's the case, then what's the point? We seem to have reached a concensus.

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The blind and the deaf are growing.

You see no use here. So what are you doing here then? Nobody is forcing you to listen and speak about "nonsense". Maybe the others have some reason. Which you obviously do not understand.

And even the views are steadily growing. Much more than most other threads here. Which is also a benefit to this forum in general.

So maybe you should not selfishly think just about yourself?

You should start a thread where you can speak about what you want to speak about. That way you can create your own interest in society without being jealous of others.
 
Craig4 said:
Meh, not feeling it.
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No problem. You will see when your eyes and ears open.

But others see already. Wondering now what is keeping your eyes closed while their eyes see?

Pride.

Pride keeps us in the "darkness" because we do not want to see. But we need to think about staying blind and deaf.

Is it really worth it?

Well it is worthy to God.

He can use even the blind and the deaf to spread His Grace.

Where Grace is Love to the undeserving.

Some time ago it was only Grace in Robertson.

Now it is spreading all over the Internet.

Thanks.
 
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Johanabrahams said:
Nope. Not really. But children do not see. Mom has to open their eyes first.

This is actually about the Living God. He is the Truth also. And He says that Craig4 was present when Tom was killed. Craig4 saw him die and being resurrected in the "sex". Everyone saw it.

And then Craig4 took one tiny piece out of context. And he ran with it. And he changed it into what he liked. And he use the changed fact which then was not a fact anymore but just something he liked.

And he ran calling me a "murderer". And nobody stopped him. And he enjoyed his "imaginary fact". And he lived in his imagination. And enjoying his imagination.

And he enjoyed calling me a murderer.

And I spoke to him many times about it. But he was too blind and deaf to hear. And I kept on warning him. But he kept on running. And nobody helped.

But everybody saw.

And he made me the "murderer".

And I just had to forgive and forgive and forgive.

Until the Living God said it is enough now.

And you say he did well making me a murderer with a piece he took out of context.

Not so.

But the Living God is using it to His benefit.

As children are blind and deaf and their eyes and ears must be opened first.

And it was only Robertson living in God's Grace.

Now it is spreading around the world.

And you have sided yourself now with Craig4.

And you are living also living in my Grace now.

And who else?
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Forgive me or don't; give me this "grace" or don't. That's your affair. I'm neither harmed by your lack of grace or forgiveness nor aided by it. I won't apologize however. What I said was a fair inference based on what you wrote.
 
Johanabrahams said:
Nope. Not really. But children do not see. Mom has to open their eyes first.

This is actually about the Living God. He is the Truth also. And He says that Craig4 was present when Tom was killed. Craig4 saw him die and being resurrected in the "sex". Everyone saw it.

And then Craig4 took one tiny piece out of context. And he ran with it. And he changed it into what he liked. And he use the changed fact which then was not a fact anymore but just something he liked.

And he ran calling me a "murderer". And nobody stopped him. And he enjoyed his "imaginary fact". And he lived in his imagination. And enjoying his imagination.

And he enjoyed calling me a murderer.

And I spoke to him many times about it. But he was too blind and deaf to hear. And I kept on warning him. But he kept on running. And nobody helped.

But everybody saw.

And he made me the "murderer".

And I just had to forgive and forgive and forgive.

Until the Living God said it is enough now.

And you say he did well making me a murderer with a piece he took out of context.

Not so.

But the Living God is using it to His benefit.

As children are blind and deaf and their eyes and ears must be opened first.

And it was only Robertson living in God's Grace.

Now it is spreading around the world.

And you have sided yourself now with Craig4.

And you are living also living in my Grace now.

And who else?
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Your "grace" is not only impotent, it doesn't exist for you to grant to anyone.

Your forgiveness, likewise.
 
TofuFighter said:
I've pretty much written and deleted the gist of this post a number of times.
There really isn't much point at all anymore
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To you there is not. But you are not the only one present here. Others are still linked in their souls.

So it seems that if there is no use for you anymore then why are you here?

As it seems that you just tried to "win the argument" which obviously you lost.



TofuFighter said:
There might be if Johan could post coherently or honestly, but he does neither.
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And now you are giving me the blame for your "bad motivation" for writing here. Because to be here only to "win the argument" is not a good motivation.

As I said you only started because you saw an opportunity to put me to shame. But now it is reversed and you want to opt out by consensus while you should admit defeat and change your motivation or just "disappear".

Changing your motivation is obviously the better choice. Why do you want to built your life on "bad". Much better to built it on good. Then you will find a huge opportunity to keep going.

You do not know much in that sphere. And there are many more here that is still children in "good".

Only problem is your pride. You might not be able to conquer it which is even worse. As your pride is going to keep you building your life on "bad".

That will be a shame to you too.

And you fear the shame that is on you for loosing. Well you should not have fought from the beginning.

TofuFighter said:
Both he and our own responses are becoming a blight on our souls.
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And here is the proof that it is you that are in the wrong and not me which you are saying.

You tried to put the blame on me being a liar and writing "incoherent" while you are the one with the "blight". Evil are always punished. That is just the way God created this world. And evil are also always the loser in the match between good and evil. God always wins.

So you took on the battle with an "evil spirit". And you lost. As the Spirit of God is the Good One. So the evil is just punishing yourself at this stage. Do not blame God for it.

Isa 3:9* The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.*

This way it is in the whole world.

This is the situation in Robertson. And this is the situation here.

It always was and it always will be. The evil are just punishing the humans for their own evil and it is not God. So do not blame God for what you are creating for yourself.

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Craig4 said:
I wasn't and it's beyond your capability to cause me to worry.
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You do not worry? But you are keeping on to protest? You are only fooling yourself.

Isa 3:9* The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.*


Craig4 said:
As to forgiveness, that's your affair.
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Yep. It is. It was you that did wrong. You accused me of a murder that I didn't commit while you were present when I "killed" Tom. And you saw what happened. And then you took one "piece" out of context and run with it. Your eyes were closed by an "evil spirit". You should abstain from him. Yet you love him and decided to keep him. Even trying now to put him in a good light while putting the blame on me.

And I tried to stop you many times. Telling you that you are "blind".


Craig4 said:
If you want to feel free
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Yep. You are correct. I have to be. But why are you and Robertson fighting my "freedom"? Do you not think you should admit wrong? Or do you not learn from their mistake.

Their mistake is too keep on fighting. Trying to put the blame on me. You really think you can do that?

But you are trying.

Robertson is now trying for 17 years.

Let me give you some advice. Evil is destined by God to loose the battle.




Craig4 said:
but I don't value your forgiveness nor do I derive benefit from it.
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You should. It is the good way to value forgiveness. You are only fighting against yourself. You are fighting pride in you. You can not confess your mistake. That is pride. God is fighting against evil. You can join the fight with God helping you to be a "good man".

You do not need to choose side with evil.
 
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fagin said:
Blood may be thicker than water, but thank god I can choose my own friends.
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You can not thank him for choosing those that decided to stay "bad". So rather choose sides with those that want to change and become good.
 
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Johanabrahams said:
My body yes. And therefor my brain is as your, yes. Maybe your IQ is just higher. But not my spirit. That is born of God.
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What "spirit"? The brain does the thinking, the consciousness, the memory and the feelings. What's the spirit do?

Yep.
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You admit to proving my point that you have no thought of your own?

I have Godly thoughts now.
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They sound suspiciously like deluded human thoughts.

They were both real. You are welcome to ask. According to Abaddon Robertson love giving the facts. You just have to keep the person a secret.
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I really don't.
 
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