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Trump and NFL boycott

Ziggurat said:
Because why would people watch an entire football game just to see some protests at the start?

That's not how interest works. It takes less to make people uninterested than to make them interested.
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And how does massive publicity work? Think it might have an effect?
 
ponderingturtle said:
But at least we can still enjoy watching black men get brain damage. That is the best part after all.
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Let's take the word black or of that.

They signed up. If one does not look into the repercussions of the sport that is no one's fault but their own. Go flip a burger if it's that horrible.
 
Giordano said:
Indeed lost in the kneeling controversy is Trump's expressed frustration with the NFL's concerns (such that there are) about head injuries.

"Today if you hit too hard — 15 yards!” Trump said at a rally in Alabama. “They’re ruining the game.”

Apparently he is against the players kneeling but it is okay, even preferable, if they stagger around a bit after repeated concussions and eventually progress to dementia. As long as the don't fall to their knees I guess.

Really- it is a small price for the players to pay for the privilege of entertaining him. And the essential core of the entertainment for Trump is watching the violent hits; strategy, skill, scoring just aren't enough to hold his interest.
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Do you think any of that actually goes through his mind? He's appealing to his base, what makes you think he has to believe any of it himself?
 
Trump is still pissed off after all these years that he never got to buy an NFL franchise. To him it really has nothing to do with kneeling, standing or laying down. The man never gives up a grudge. It's payback time even though he's the only one that it matters to.
 
Argumemnon said:
Stop agreeing with me, Zig. This is getting weird!
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Now I'm confused. If I disagree with you, then I'm merely agreeing to your request to stop agreeing with you. So I guess I'll have to disagree with your request, and keep on agreeing with you.

Or vice versa. :boggled:
 
Ziggurat said:
So you want to blame the media, then?
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Are you playing a stupid game or did you not get it I was talking about the publicity potentially increasing NFL viewers not the protests decreasing them.

I get it you cannot imagine people actually agree with these athletes and others speaking out against police brutality against blacks. It's a small right-wing minority of Trump followers and other racists that think speaking out against racism is somehow an unpatriotic slight on soldiers.

Kind of like the idiots who are calling these guys ungrateful millionaires don't have a clue how racist that is.
 
sadhatter said:
Let's take the word black or of that.

They signed up. If one does not look into the repercussions of the sport that is no one's fault but their own. Go flip a burger if it's that horrible.
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So the league taking action to decrease head trauma is wrong? Or are you disputing more black team members are affected because they hold a larger proportion of the positions that get knocked around?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I get it you cannot imagine people actually agree with these athletes and others speaking out against police brutality against blacks.
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No, that's not at all what I think (big surprise, you can't imagine I'm anything other than the caricature you've formed in your head). But I don't think many people watch sports games just because they agree with the politics of the player.
 
Ziggurat said:
No, that's not at all what I think (big surprise, you can't imagine I'm anything other than the caricature you've formed in your head). But I don't think many people watch sports games just because they agree with the politics of the player.
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Yeah, it's hard enough to enjoy sports as it is. Adding the additional burden of making sure all the players are people you like and agree with would be a bit taxing.

This reminds me of after I heard the Christian Bale tirade it became a bit harder for me to enjoy his movies.
 
Trump is deeply concerned about respect for the flag, but apparently has no problem with people waving the flags of nations that were enemies of the USA.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
"I prefer somone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag.”
― Molly Ivins
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I feel the above quote needs to be posted again as it aptly captures the heart of this whole situation.

Far too many American's are unfortunately the latter and don't get that they are promoting a symbol of the principles of America over the actual principles of America.
 
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