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Merged How Trump has Emboldened Bigots, Racists and Nazis

Do Bigots, Racists and Nazis Feel Empowered by Trump's Election?

This is a split-off topic from the woefully* titled "Massive Wave of Hate Crimes, etc..." thread. *Woefully, because it's allowed conservative smoke blowers to split hairs over the poor choice of wording.

The premise is that Trump's election has enabled not just the deplorables, but the reprehensibles. Actual nazis, hard line racists, bigots of various stripes. The charmers who were in Charlottesville would be a good starting point, as it seems to be giving the enablers and apologists ulcers trying to get it ignored.

Alt-Right is nothing more than a nice word for White Nationalist. As we saw after Charlottesville and Trump's intentionally weak response, the Supremacists, Klan and Nazis all took his comments with great excitement. This, alone, should settle the overall question, but I'm curious to hear the apologists' views.
 
One the one hand, yes, Trump has emboldened them, but on the other hand, invoking somebody or something doesn't really say much about your motive: Mark Chapman, the guy who killed John Lennon, invoked The Catcher in the Rye, and I think that the guy who attempted to kill Reagan invoked Jody Foster, so …
When fundamentalist Christians invoke the Bible to defend their crusades against gays, we're probably not dealing with people who, until they read the scripture, were quite easygoing and comfortable with homosexuality. They've just come up with (one of the silliest) new ways of defending their creed.
In order to be emboldened by Trump's statements, you must believe that the guy who's in charge, the guy on top of the pyramid, must be right, that his views somehow, for no other reason than because he is that guy, deserve respect and obedience.
And that belief system is much more prevalent than the ideology of white supremacy.
 
dann said:
One the one hand, yes, Trump has emboldened them, but on the other hand, invoking somebody or something doesn't really say much about your motive: Mark Chapman, the guy who killed John Lennon, invoked The Catcher in the Rye, and I think that the guy who attempted to kill Reagan invoked Jody Foster, so …
When fundamentalist Christians invoke the Bible to defend their crusades against gays, we're probably not dealing with people who, until they read the scripture, were quite easygoing and comfortable with homosexuality. They've just come up with (one of the silliest) new ways of defending their creed.
In order to be emboldened by Trump's statements, you must believe that the guy who's in charge, the guy on top of the pyramid, must be right, that his views somehow, for no other reason than because he is that guy, deserve respect and obedience.
And that belief system is much more prevalent than the ideology of white supremacy.
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Sure the issue is how Trump has effected the beliefs and actions of the white supremacists. And has his rhetoric shifted people to embrace white supremacy who hadn't thought about it in the past.

Though FoolmeOnce made basicly the same thread, so they should probably be merged.
 
Trump's election has certainly empowered the bigots on the left.
 
The right wing crowd should not feel empowered by Trumps win. Never once has he given these people any encouragement to cause trouble. He actually told them to quit.

Trump wants to make America stronger, creat jbs, keep jobs in the USA and some of these qualities appeal to the KKK or skin heads or whomever. Trump never said jobs for white only. Many conservative black groups support Trump and probably will when reelection time comes.
 
Cainkane1 said:
The right wing crowd should not feel empowered by Trumps win. Never once has he given these people any encouragement to cause trouble. He actually told them to quit.

Trump wants to make America stronger, creat jbs, keep jobs in the USA and some of these qualities appeal to the KKK or skin heads or whomever. Trump never said jobs for white only. Many conservative black groups support Trump and probably will when reelection time comes.
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And his many racist rants are of course not a point attracting the KKK to him at all. You know many KKK members and nazis are really good people. Condemning the nazis as a group with out pointing out that some of them are good would be worse than doing that to all hispanics.
 
Mike! said:
Are they feeling empowered, or are they just getting more of the spotlight now than they did before?
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Well, that's a form of empowerment in itself, isn't it? Their previous press was, shall we agree, mostly of the negative sort. Now they get negative reactions (using your car to run people down will do that) but they have the Great Orange Turdblossom trumpsplaining it away.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Well, that's a form of empowerment in itself, isn't it? Their previous press was, shall we agree, mostly of the negative sort. Now they get negative reactions (using your car to run people down will do that) but they have the Great Orange Turdblossom trumpsplaining it away.
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At least that was officially not a terrorist act.
 
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