Merged How Trump has Emboldened Bigots, Racists and Nazis

[Belz...]

Trump doesn't strike me as the kind of compelling public speaker whose rhetoric could toggle someone from "hasn't thought about embracing white supremacy" to "has embraced white supremacy".

That's not what "embolden" means. It means toggling someone from "is a racist or white supremacist but kept it to himself" to "hey, the President's on my side!"

 

[ponderingturtle]

That's not what "embolden" means. It means toggling someone from "is a racist or white supremacist but kept it to himself" to "hey, the President's on my side!"

Though I do think that being emboldened helps many of the recruit new people.

 

[Belz...]

No doubt.

 

[applecorped]

This dog still wont hunt

 

[theprestige]

Is it possible that you don't understand what "embolden" means? Hint: It does not mean "convert". Knowing that you are rather intelligent, I'm gonna call "Misdirection!" yet again.

Is it possible you don't know what "embrace" means? Hint: Read the post I was replying to. ponderingturtle explicitly talks about embracing white supremacy. If you think he meant "embolden", take it up with him.

Who's misdirecting who, here?

 

[theprestige]

And who would have though gamergate lead to lots of people embracing nazi ideology, but it does seem to work out that way.

You say so, but you can't provide any examples or data.

 

[theprestige]

That's not what "embolden" means. It means toggling someone from "is a racist or white supremacist but kept it to himself" to "hey, the President's on my side!"

It is what "embrace" means, though. Try reading the post I was responding to.

 

[Belz...]

It is what "embrace" means, though. Try reading the post I was responding to.

I did. You responded to Turtle's post about the topic, which is about how Trump emboldens racists. At no point did you or him indicate that you were talking about anything else.

You wouldn't be trying to avoid admitting to making a mistake, would you?

 

[jimbob]

Yes, they do.

As stated above, they say they do and they act like they do. There's no reason to think they don't.

The question Trump apologists need to ask themselves is 'why'. The rest of us already know.

I have said it before, if David Duke praises your stance on race, and the Bushes condemn them, then that's a sign that you are in the wrong.

 

[Noztradamus]

Except he used "empowered". I think "emboldened" is closer to the mark.

"embiggened" is the word.

 

[ponderingturtle]

I have said it before, if David Duke praises your stance on race, and the Bushes condemn them, then that's a sign that you are in the wrong.

But you are more truly republican.

 

[phiwum]

delete

 

[ahhell]

But you are more truly republican.

This reminds me of the sort of atheists that thinks fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims are more truly Christian/Muslim than their more liberal co-religionists. Even if true, all it does is much the liberal factions more towards the fundies.

 

[The Don]

This reminds me of the sort of atheists that thinks fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims are more truly Christian/Muslim than their more liberal co-religionists. Even if true, all it does is much the liberal factions more towards the fundies.

Where do you find this sort of atheist ?

 

[ponderingturtle]

This reminds me of the sort of atheists that thinks fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims are more truly Christian/Muslim than their more liberal co-religionists. Even if true, all it does is much the liberal factions more towards the fundies.

Trump tapped into the energy of the base far more effectively than the Bushes, McCain, Romney or Dole ever did. He won by realizing that they didn't need to bring up some RINO moderate for president.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

Trump's election has certainly empowered the bigots on the left.

This

and without even seeing the hypocrisy involved.

As the above quotes show, Trump certainly has emboldened some to cast off the veil. Whereas before they may have at least pretended to be impartial, now it's just full-on partisan false equivalency.

 

[ahhell]

Trump tapped into the energy of the base far more effectively than the Bushes, McCain, Romney or Dole ever did. He won by realizing that they didn't need to bring up some RINO moderate for president.

Its hard to argue with results I suppose. The polling as of a month or two ago suggested that about 20% of republicans were on the side of the Romney's, Doles, etc and still opposed Trump's ascendancy. It suggests you may be right.

That being said, the majority of republicans are not Klansmen nor do the support the Klan. They are however a bit to wiling to associate with the Klan with out second guessing them selves for my tastes.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Its hard to argue with results I suppose. The polling as of a month or two ago suggested that about 20% of republicans were on the side of the Romney's, Doles, etc and still opposed Trump's ascendancy. It suggests you may be right.

That being said, the majority of republicans are not Klansmen nor do the support the Klan. They are however a bit to wiling to associate with the Klan with out second guessing them selves for my tastes.

They prefer their white supremacy to be couched in more polite terms. That was well known with the organized disenfranchisement of blacks for example.

 

[Darat]

Where do you find this sort of atheist ?

Perhaps in this fine building?

 

[Foolmewunz]

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/14/us/airbnb-host-fine-asian-comment/index.html

I suppose this lady was just making this story up. Because the bigots, according to those on the right who should know, have not been emboldened by Trump. No. Not at all.